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Re:Troll-Killing Patent Reform One Step Closer by WalterBright on Thursday September 26, 2013 @03:58PM (#6453233)
A way to stop frivolous lawsuits of all sorts is to have the loser pay the winner the lesser of (what the loser paid his lawyer) and (what the winner paid his lawyer).
Re:Troll-Killing Patent Reform One Step Closer by tzs on Thursday September 26, 2013 @05:12PM (#6453676)
The big problem with a general "loser pays" system for the US is that we use private civil suits for many things that much of the rest of the world uses government intervention for.

For instance, much of our civil rights enforcement comes about through private civil suits for employment or housing discrimination. We use malpractice lawsuits as a major part of dealing with bad doctors. We use consumers suing over bad products as a significant part of keeping consumer goods safe.

Your suggestion that the loser pays the lesser of what the two sides paid their lawyer is interesting, because it would not discourage lawsuits as much as a general "loser pays winner's costs" system, which is what is usually posed. Effectively, in the common case of a small party suing a big party, your proposal would double the plaintiff's cost if he lost. That would probably be a small enough risk that it wouldn't stop, say, a person who thinks they have been discriminated against in housing from suing--it would just mean he'd go with a less expensive lawyer than he might otherwise have used.

Re:Troll-Killing Patent Reform One Step Closer by WalterBright on Thursday September 26, 2013 @08:12PM (#6454429)
The issue with "loser pays winner's costs" is that if there is a large disparity in the wealth of the two parties, the wealthier one can essentially bully the other with the threat of a massive bill, even if the other party has a solid case.
Re:Troll-Killing Patent Reform One Step Closer by victorf on Thursday September 26, 2013 @11:39PM (#6455118)
No it won't. There's a reason patent trolls all use shell companies and it's because they can be totally financially independent. Declaring insolvency of one such company is nothing to the patent troll.
Re:Troll-Killing Patent Reform One Step Closer by nopinsight on Thursday September 26, 2013 @11:53PM (#6455154)
That is why the Transparency and the Joinder clauses briefly described in the original article are important steps forward.

> Transparency: The draft includes strong language requiring patent trolls to reveal the parties that would actually benefit from the litigation (called the real party in interest).

> Joinder: If the plaintiff is a shell-company patent troll, the defendant could require the real party in interest to join the litigation. Even better, a prevailing defendant could collect attorney’s fees from the real party in interest if the patent troll can’t or won’t pay.

Re:Troll-Killing Patent Reform One Step Closer by rarw on Friday September 27, 2013 @08:28AM (#6456594)
You could almost certainly find a away to pierce the corporate veil in this case so that's not really a concern.
Re:Troll-Killing Patent Reform One Step Closer by WalterBright on Friday September 27, 2013 @01:03AM (#6455325)
This could be dealt with by requiring the plaintiff to post a bond on an ongoing basis.
Re:Troll-Killing Patent Reform One Step Closer by EGreg on Thursday September 26, 2013 @04:44PM (#6453528)
What if the loser was a lawyer or had a very cheap one / a friend litigate?
Re:Troll-Killing Patent Reform One Step Closer by rarw on Friday September 27, 2013 @08:27AM (#6456591)
Good luck finding a cheap patent attorney. All those admitted to the patent bar must have a technical background. That only raises the price.