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Re:In 2016, Paris to be home to the biggest startup incubato... by hartator on Wednesday September 25, 2013 @10:47AM (#6444886)
From the CIR (The structure in charge of this tax credit), you can only do: applied science, pure research and experimental development. Sounds more PHD tasks than regular designer or regular engineer tasks.
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Re:In 2016, Paris to be home to the biggest startup incubato... by hme on Wednesday September 25, 2013 @11:02AM (#6444991)
Nope, it's totally ok. Tested for 4 years with a control from a government agent lately with 2 engineers and a 3D artist without any engineering degree. CIR is way broader than what people think, and it has been made even broader this year (you can now include tasks from pilot programs). This is really super undervalued, CIR and other grants is totally a game changer in assessing if France is a good country to start a tech business.
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Re:In 2016, Paris to be home to the biggest startup incubato... by jefm on Friday September 27, 2013 @06:41AM (#6456295)
Totally agree, I've been leading our R&D program for 4 years. No PhD at all, a product owner, 4 engineers (some with an engineering degree, some without) and a UX designer. Design and testing are eligible as far as it is related to R&D operations. Some of the support costs, such as accounting, technology watch or hardware requirements, are eligible.

We also obtain the JEI status that allows huge tax discounts.

The fact you can't innovate in France is a myth.

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