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Re:Oracle Announces an In-Memory Technology, At an Ungodly S... by joshuaellinger on Monday September 23, 2013 @08:50PM (#6435151)
I've been told that Terradata runs $1M/TB. So Larry is kind of right about the cost relative to his peers.

The columnar store I use are in the $10K/TB range running on $10-25K servers.

I think Oracle is going to have trouble with this space.

Re:Oracle Announces an In-Memory Technology, At an Ungodly S... by dman on Monday September 23, 2013 @09:52PM (#6435373)
Which columnar store do you use?
Re:Oracle Announces an In-Memory Technology, At an Ungodly S... by joshuaellinger on Thursday September 26, 2013 @10:56PM (#6454998)
Some HP Vertica and some Actian Vectorwise. Vertica scales to multiple nodes better and HP is a much more accepted vendor. I've got friends who are doing a lot of Redshift (which is repackaged ParAccel). Start with Redshift if you are new to columnar.

If you can afford it, Microsoft's new PDW looks like a much richer functionality columnar store.

Re:Oracle Announces an In-Memory Technology, At an Ungodly S... by ericfrenkiel on Monday September 23, 2013 @09:54PM (#6435385)
that could reflect software licensing and PSO. Oracle's $100k/TB is just the cost of the hardware before software.
Re:Oracle Announces an In-Memory Technology, At an Ungodly S... by CurtMonash on Tuesday September 24, 2013 @02:32AM (#6436351)
Whoever told you that about Teradata was very bad at arithmetic.
Re:Oracle Announces an In-Memory Technology, At an Ungodly S... by joshuaellinger on Thursday September 26, 2013 @11:03PM (#6455021)
The mighty Curt Monash reads HackerNews? Who knew?

Howdy. I like how you hold no punches on your blog but normally you are good about backing them up with data. I hope to meet you some day.

The precise quote from my client that uses TeraData is "I.T. charges me $1M for each TB I use". I know that's very different from what it costs the business but it is still a very damning number. That's basically a fully loaded cost to an end business unit.

Re:Oracle Announces an In-Memory Technology, At an Ungodly S... by CurtMonash on Friday September 27, 2013 @09:47PM (#6460551)
OK, maybe it's his IT department that's arithmetically challenged. :)

If costs are CLOSE to being that high, then data volumes are a very poor metric for cost allocation. 2+ people per terabyte are being counted in, so either there are a huge number of tables, or they're including BI developers, or something.

E.g., doubling the size of every table, if nothing else changed, might only take those costs up 10%, give or take a factor of 2.