Re:How to interview engineers as a startup
by walshemj on Monday September 23, 2013 @09:44AM
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Tough - running a startup is not all kittens and unicorns there is this thing called hard work - this attitude is just like the car dealers in Texas who dont like Tesla selling direct.
Re:How to interview engineers as a startup
by bonemachine on Monday September 23, 2013 @11:46AM
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"If you don't like it, tough" can work as an attitude, sort of, if you're a car dealership battling with another car dealership over some piece of marketing territory in Texas.
But if you're a startup with an iffy business plan trying to convince sentient human beings with high-end to spend their salad years sweating on your vision, in as competitive a labor market as what we have now... not so much.
Re:How to interview engineers as a startup
by walshemj on Monday September 23, 2013 @12:48PM
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That was my point that some start ups seem to think people should walk over burning coals to work for them - to much watching of sirallen of the "apprentice"/dragons den type of programs.
Its a market if you load costs (time or money) on to potential employees they are going to mark you down.
If a fizzbuzz-order phone screen was done before the longer coding challenge, for multiple candidates, then most likely >> 2 hours.
What sucks though is when the hiring manager pretends (as managers often do) that the challenge will take "only 2 hours", but in reality -- to get it production-grade, well-document, and (as happens quite often) provide fixes or workarounds to bugs in the hastily drawn up spec -- it ends up taking 5-10 hours.
And as a reward, you get sent back to the internal recruiter, with their finite attention span and short-term memory capacity. And the usual random delays, inattentiveness, and cognitively detached communication loops ensue, for week after week.
Fun for everyone!