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Re:Experts consider consequences of ‘leap second’ elimination by asmithmd1 on Thursday September 19, 2013 @05:46PM (#6414526)
You are right; if we need about 1 second a year that is about 30 minutes in 2000 years. Lets agree to add a leap hour 2000 years from now - that will put us 30 minutes ahead so we can go 4000 years until we need to add another hour
Re:Experts consider consequences of ‘leap second’ elimination by spiritplumber on Thursday September 19, 2013 @05:59PM (#6414586)
Bad idea for things that use the sun to synchronize - solar panel servos, for example, or locator buoys that need a failover in case GPS satellites all decide to call it quits (There are such things for navies and commercial ships).
Re:Experts consider consequences of ‘leap second’ elimination by PeterisP on Thursday September 19, 2013 @06:48PM (#6414808)
If some system is so disconnected that their direction/location can't be adjusted remotely every few years or so, then the current leap second data doesn't work for them anyways - they aren't scheduled far in advance, and that system won't get the info when a new leap second is announced.

By the way, do solar panel servos really have the proper sun-time set in them? I mean, if one panel is 200 feet west of another, is its clock set to be 2 seconds later?

Re:Experts consider consequences of ‘leap second’ elimination by MichaelGG on Thursday September 19, 2013 @06:37PM (#6414753)
Then those few super-delicate astronomical systems can sync up their own leap seconds.

Leap seconds are a terrible, idiotic thing because some people want to have their NTP servers lined up with sundials. There's no legitimate purpose for them in use for computer nor civil time.

Proposing a leap hour seems like the best way. That way we can nod to the people that feel the sun's position matters, while knowing that in thousands of years someone else can deal with the issue.

Re:Experts consider consequences of ‘leap second’ elimination by cmsmith on Thursday September 19, 2013 @06:24PM (#6414700)
The sun moves 0.25 arcminutes in the sky every second, and has an apparent diameter of 30 arcminutes. Meaning that even after 50 years, if you (or your solar panels) look straight up at noon you'll still be pointed at the sun. So systems built to last for hundreds of years are the only situations where I could see it mattering.
Re:Experts consider consequences of ‘leap second’ elimination by PeterisP on Thursday September 19, 2013 @06:45PM (#6414796)
Even less than that - it affects only systems that are both built to last for hundreds of years and have no maintenance or communications possible for hundreds of years and aren't smart enough to carry a bit of code to do an approximate adjustment themselves. Which should mean no systems at all.
Re:Experts consider consequences of ‘leap second’ elimination by tomrod on Thursday September 19, 2013 @08:29PM (#6415242)
The only one that comes to mind is Stonehenge.
Re:Experts consider consequences of ‘leap second’ elimination by s_q_b on Thursday September 19, 2013 @09:00PM (#6415364)
Sun-tracking monoliths in general. We should really get around to building one of these near the seed vault at some point.
Re:Experts consider consequences of ‘leap second’ elimination by spiritplumber on Thursday September 19, 2013 @09:50PM (#6415527)
Keyword being "should".
Re:Experts consider consequences of ‘leap second’ elimination by thwarted on Thursday September 19, 2013 @06:08PM (#6414618)
Wouldn't it be more efficient, and less error prone, for solar panel servos to have a sunlight/brightness input feedback mechanism, rather than time-of-day based position?
Re:Experts consider consequences of ‘leap second’ elimination by ams6110 on Thursday September 19, 2013 @06:17PM (#6414664)
How long is any one buoy in service? 5 years? 10? will it really matter on that scale?