Re:Researchers can slip an undetectable trojan into Intel’s ...
by tptacek on Wednesday September 18, 2013 @12:42PM
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No, researchers could theoretically slip a difficult-to-detect trojan into Ivy Bridge if they controlled the manufacturing process for the chip. The paper is extremely interesting and important, but this headline does it a grave disservice. There is actually nothing specific to Ivy Bridge about the technique; Ivy Bridge is simply a case study in the paper for how the technique might be valuable to an attacker.
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Re:Researchers can slip an undetectable trojan into Intel’s ...
by acqq on Wednesday September 18, 2013 @01:39PM
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Exactly, the mentioned researchers haven't done anything with any schematics of the real Intel processor. It's "what we believe we could do if we'd have the control of the production of a processor with the RND like the one described by Intel to exist in their CPU's starting with their Ivy Bridge architecture."
Still, it's interesting to see how such things could be done.
Re:Researchers can slip an undetectable trojan into Intel’s ...
by petermonsson on Wednesday September 18, 2013 @03:09PM
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The choice of BIST over scan/ATPG makes this attack theoretically possible on Ivy Bridge. If Intel had used scan/ATPG then this attack could not have worked even in theory. Unfortunately, I don't have the insight to understand why scan/ATPG could introduce a backdoor.
Disclaimer: I don't think that this attack is even theoretically feasible given just a few real world constraints. I am just nitpicking
Re:Researchers can slip an undetectable trojan into Intel’s ...
by archer174 on Wednesday September 18, 2013 @03:20PM
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Scan chains by design, give you the ability to load each flop with whatever value you want. Then you can toggle the clock and see the result. If you were very resilient about this you may be able to gather information about the structure. Without a GDS or netlist this is all very far fetched and unlikely. I've said before, but it is far more likely to bribe a rogue designer than to introduce back doors at this level.