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Re:This 4×6 index card has all the financial advice you’ll e... by mechanical_fish on Monday September 16, 2013 @10:15PM (#6397209)
The percentage of US workers with access to a retirement-benefits plan is 71%. 57% of all US workers participate in such a plan.

(Source: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, 2009 National Compensation Survey, http://www.bls.gov/ncs/ebs/benefits/2009/ebbl0044.pdf)

In Table 2, it says that even 15% of the lowest income decile - people making less than 90% of workers - find a way to participate in a retirement plan.

Here's a more detailed writeup from the Bureau: http://www.bls.gov/opub/cwc/cm20100520ar01p1.htm

Meanwhile, the "top 10%" of households earn $135k per year or more, while the median income is around $50k.

(Source: http://www.economist.com/blogs/dailychart/2011/09/us-househo...)

Anyone making over $60k per year could (in theory; this is a highly abstract argument at this level, of course!) save 20% of their income without dropping below the median household income of $50k; households making over $60k per year appear to constitute 32% to 40% of the population, if I read this Census Bureau chart correctly: https://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2012/tables/12s0690....

None of which says anything about the effectiveness of 401k plans, or anything else. But if you're going to handwave about numbers it's nice to hit the right order of magnitude.

Re:This 4×6 index card has all the financial advice you’ll e... by lutusp on Tuesday September 17, 2013 @01:01AM (#6397665)
> Anyone making over $60k per year could [...] save 20% of their income without dropping below the median household income of $50k.

20% of 60k is 12k, 60k - 12k = 48k. So no, the claim isn't true for the most trivial of reasons.

Re:This 4×6 index card has all the financial advice you’ll e... by pathy on Tuesday September 17, 2013 @05:45AM (#6398387)
Nitpicking, 48k is close enough for the point to still be valid.

You are technically correct though.

Re:This 4×6 index card has all the financial advice you’ll e... by lutusp on Tuesday September 17, 2013 @09:48AM (#6399204)
> 48k is close enough ...

Mathematics is the one discipline where "close enough" isn't close enough. :)

Re:This 4×6 index card has all the financial advice you’ll e... by pathy on Tuesday September 17, 2013 @11:56AM (#6400013)
Technically correct again but in this case it really is close enough :).
Re:This 4×6 index card has all the financial advice you’ll e... by thesz on Tuesday September 17, 2013 @12:42AM (#6397616)
20% of $60K is 12K. Or, put another way, 80% of $60K is $48K.

$48K is below $50K.

Your math is wrong.