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Re:Apple will "take at least several months" to release LLVM... by ianstallings on Wednesday September 11, 2013 @05:25PM (#6370239)
Must be a significant fork and/or the code is not "pretty". No one wants to embarrass themselves and they probably have to peer review it, etc. All with managers breathing down their necks :D
Re:Apple will "take at least several months" to release LLVM... by general_failure on Wednesday September 11, 2013 @08:24PM (#6371142)
I guess they kept it secret because no-one has a 64-bit embedded cpu.
Re:Apple will "take at least several months" to release LLVM... by kps on Wednesday September 11, 2013 @08:56PM (#6371280)
It seems obvious that they kept it secret because if Apple had been pushing out improvements to the ARM64 code generator for the past months, someone would have connected the dots and understood they were building an ARM64 device.

All Chris Lattner's message is saying is that Apple's contributions here are subject to the same process as anyone else, namely incremental commits with community review.

Re:Apple will "take at least several months" to release LLVM... by AnthonyMouse on Wednesday September 11, 2013 @11:13PM (#6371821)
>It seems obvious that they kept it secret because if Apple had been pushing out improvements to the ARM64 code generator for the past months, someone would have connected the dots and understood they were building an ARM64 device.

Existing high end mobile devices have on the order of 2GB of memory. It doesn't take a genius to work out that they're soon going to have 4GB or more and hit the ceiling of a 32-bit address space. Why bother keeping a secret something the entire market already knows is going to happen in short order?

Re:Apple will "take at least several months" to release LLVM... by derefr on Thursday September 12, 2013 @12:39AM (#6372089)
Because the timing between "when that information comes out" and "when apple have something to show that people can buy" greatly affects their stock price.
Re:Apple will "take at least several months" to release LLVM... by ianstallings on Thursday September 12, 2013 @10:40AM (#6374326)
What they might have done instead is reached out to the core team and let them in on it up front. Now it's going to be one huge code review after they commit their changes.
Re:Apple will "take at least several months" to release LLVM... by kps on Thursday September 12, 2013 @11:41AM (#6374718)
We don't know that they didn't; it takes about 5 seconds of 'git log lib/Target/AArch64' to see that it hasn't exactly been wild with activity this summer.

Again, the point of the message is that it isn't going to be 'one huge code review', it's going to be incremental small reviews, same as anyone else's contributions.

I have plenty of gripes with Apple (half of which can be inferred from the fact I'm personally running 10.6.8 for the foreseeable future) but this isn't one of them.