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Re:Free Software Foundation issues statement on new iPhone m... by tedks on Tuesday September 10, 2013 @08:07PM (#6364517)
If it were anyone else but RMS who did that, HN would laud it as the pinnacle of hacker excellence. I could see this in a lovingly-upvoted bio of Dear Leader^w^wpg:

> Though the YC portfolio is typically on the bleeding edge of tech trends, focused on mobile and web apps, Graham doesn't even use a web browser unless he needs to. "I find the web distracting," says Graham. His solution? A custom-coded program that downloads web pages, formats them for offline reading, and sends them to him via email. "I spend a lot of time responding to email, so this fits in with my existing workflow, and I can keep track of it like anything else in my inbox."

If pg is a bad example, pick literally any other well-known hacker.

And yet, every time the FSF or RMS are mentioned, this is thrown up as a sign RMS is "out of touch" or "anti-technology." No, RMS is a hacker, who didn't like the user experience of the web and hacked a solution.

Re:Free Software Foundation issues statement on new iPhone m... by gfodor on Tuesday September 10, 2013 @08:27PM (#6364624)
So which side is right? The people for whom which pg can do no wrong, or the people for whom which rms can do no right?
Re:Free Software Foundation issues statement on new iPhone m... by tedks on Tuesday September 10, 2013 @10:58PM (#6365235)
Neither. The people that are right are the people that apply the same reasonable standards to any demagogue. They're rare among humans, but they are the least wrong.

In particular, you are wrong, since you're incapable of separating RMS's political stance on software freedom from his political stance on surveillance. If Paul Graham didn't use a cell phone, would that make Y Combinator any worse?

Re:Free Software Foundation issues statement on new iPhone m... by gfodor on Wednesday September 11, 2013 @12:26AM (#6365503)
I'm wrong about what now? Where did I make any claims to be wrong about?
Re:Free Software Foundation issues statement on new iPhone m... by tedks on Wednesday September 11, 2013 @12:35PM (#6368191)
" The fact that rms does not use a cell phone in 2013 is telling."

- gfodor, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6364214

Re:Free Software Foundation issues statement on new iPhone m... by gfodor on Wednesday September 11, 2013 @02:12PM (#6368868)
Uh, so you're arguing that it is "not telling?" I really don't see what claim you are arguing against.