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Re:NSA Revelations Cast Doubt on the Entire Tech Industry by bsullivan01 on Saturday September 07, 2013 @10:15AM (#6345127)
No threats, they'll just copy your data one way or another. If US corps and people have x protections, others have zero.
Re:NSA Revelations Cast Doubt on the Entire Tech Industry by pedrocr on Saturday September 07, 2013 @10:29AM (#6345177)
How does the NSA copy the data from a server hosted in Germany by a German company?
Re:NSA Revelations Cast Doubt on the Entire Tech Industry by shabble on Saturday September 07, 2013 @02:41PM (#6346050)
Depends how badly they want it.

Use a 0-day remote exploit to get a login, exfiltrate data.

Use a known, unpatched exploit to do same.

Use 0-day/known local exploit with sophisticated spear-phish trojan to do same.

Use leverage over domestic software suppliers to ship a customised exploitable (or directly backdoored) update to target company. Ditto domestic hardware manufacturers.

Black-bag (or diplomatic quid pro quo) tap of external or internal comm links, to get either raw traffic or encrypted. If the latter, apply other complementary techniques to obtain keys.

Infiltrate company with agent who can deploy local exploit via physical access, or who can bug/exploit workstations of users to obtain privileged access to server.

Bully/dupe the German government into raiding & seizing the server as part of an international terror/crime investigation. Acquire disk image from seized machines via direct or complementary techniques.

Purchase/acquire German company via a domestic front company. Demand IT infrastructure be 'harmonised' with acquirer and moved to US.

...and many, many more. The only reason not to do most of these things is because the cost/benefit analysis doesn't make it worthwhile to do universally without any prior suspicion.

Re:NSA Revelations Cast Doubt on the Entire Tech Industry by pedrocr on Sunday September 08, 2013 @01:11PM (#6349358)
So to summarize they need to do something else than get a NSL and have the company hand over the data. Which is what's different if the company in the US.