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Re:PayPal Freezes Mailpile Campaign Funds by pc on Thursday September 05, 2013 @08:13AM (#6333609)
> I've no idea what the current fraud level against Stripe is, but as they become more mainstream they're going to need to employ more anti-fraud and anti-risk measures as their exposure increases.

I'm one of Stripe's cofounders. For what it's worth -- we already process billions of dollars a year. (More than PayPal when it was acquired.) There'll always be more we can do on the fraud/risk side, but we're already operating at a scale that requires a decent amount of sophistication.

Re:PayPal Freezes Mailpile Campaign Funds by ig1 on Thursday September 05, 2013 @09:05AM (#6333862)
(in a previous life I worked in front office investment banking so had to undergo anti-fraud and anti-money laundering training as well as worked on general exposure risk issues)

The problem is that fraud/risk (like tech security) is it often involves black swan events. Everything seems fine right until the point where it's not and you're on the hook for millions of dollars (Stripe is probably in the position where you can afford to take a few black swan type events and survive; a lot of Paypal competitors weren't).

Given that Stripe don't do the "wallet" approach of Paypal and is primarily focused on API customers I'm guessing your risks in general are lower, but I'd recommend you be careful about becoming over-complacent.

Re:PayPal Freezes Mailpile Campaign Funds by pc on Thursday September 05, 2013 @09:24AM (#6333974)
> I'd recommend you be careful about becoming over-complacent.

Absolutely. Indeed, I'd characterize us as actively paranoid. My point was merely that we're already operating at a scale that needs pretty good fraud systems.

(I think we're mostly in strong agreement.)

Re:PayPal Freezes Mailpile Campaign Funds by brudgers on Thursday September 05, 2013 @10:32AM (#6334427)
Does fraud follow the power law?
Re:PayPal Freezes Mailpile Campaign Funds by Uchikoma on Thursday September 05, 2013 @08:37AM (#6333725)
You're right, but then there was no PayPal when PayPal reached their size, so the situation now seems different to me.
Re:PayPal Freezes Mailpile Campaign Funds by pcunite on Thursday September 05, 2013 @09:02AM (#6333846)
Thank you for Stripe ... it freed us from PayPal's chains.
Re:PayPal Freezes Mailpile Campaign Funds by matznerd on Thursday September 05, 2013 @08:24AM (#6333654)
Stripe rocks :)