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Re:Why aren’t there any technologists on the NSA review panel? by rayiner on Thursday August 29, 2013 @09:31AM (#6295679)
Because Obama doesn't see this as a technology issue. It's a security versus legal rights issue. Technology is involved merely incidentally. Hence a panel that involves two intelligence people (Morell and Clarke), and three law professors (Sunstein, Swire, and Stone).

The professors aren't ideologically diverse, but they're hardly intelligence community insiders like the article is trying to make them out to be. Swire was Chief Counselor for Privacy in the OMB under Clinton. Stone writes a lot on subjects like preserving free speech rights during wartime. None of these guys are anarcho-libertarians, but they're not John Woo "security first" guys either. They pretty much represent the views of the "mainstream left."

Hypothesis: what people want is not someone who knows "how to run a packet sniffer." There is nothing complicated about the underlying technology that can't be explained adequately to a bunch of intelligent people. What people are really mad about is the lack of any representation of the political views of technologists: people who put a very high ideological priority on free information and protecting communications online. Because that is the thing you can't explain in a whitepaper.

Re:Why aren’t there any technologists on the NSA review panel? by TomJoad on Thursday August 29, 2013 @11:55AM (#6296521)
"There is nothing complicated about the underlying technology that can't be explained adequately to a bunch of intelligent people."

Assuming the underlying technology and it's implications are explained adequately at all. We already know how they try to explain metadata, so how are they going to explain the stuff we still don't know about?

Re:Why aren’t there any technologists on the NSA review panel? by rayiner on Thursday August 29, 2013 @12:08PM (#6296610)
Metadata is actually a good example. I'd bet that everyone on that panel understands perfectly well what metadata is and is not. The relevant part of the metadata issue isn't technical, it's legal: can it be protected by the 4th amendment, when it's sitting on AT&T's servers? What sophisticated technical understanding is needed to answer this question? Indeed, arguably better technical understanding undermines the argument for protecting it. When you understand that the metadata is something that's generated by AT&T and not you or your phone, that's less of an argument for protecting it.
Re:Why aren’t there any technologists on the NSA review panel? by betterunix on Thursday August 29, 2013 @01:13PM (#6297045)
"There is nothing complicated about the underlying technology that can't be explained adequately to a bunch of intelligent people"

Explained by...? I would have thought that having a technologist on the panel would at least serve the purpose of explaining technology issues to the rest of the panel's members.

Re:Why aren’t there any technologists on the NSA review panel? by rayiner on Thursday August 29, 2013 @01:53PM (#6297344)
That's generally not how panels work. They'll commission expert reports, etc.