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Re:Fukushima leak is 'much worse than we were led to believe' by wissler on Friday August 23, 2013 @01:18PM (#6264908)
I understand the libertarian view: that governmental power is illegitimate because it is derived from force.

This is incorrect. Certainly some strains of libertarianism wrongly think that, but certainly not all. The word "libertarian" is a very loose idea, not some specific ideology. And besides, you were the one who claimed I was "libertarian", I never made the claim myself. What I'd say is that I'm pro-individual consent. "Classical liberal" is a fine word.

I also completely reject that view: I believe that governmental power is derived from a civil society and that power is society's way of imposing an agreed set of behaviour in the face of bad actors. I see nothing immoral or wrong in this - indeed, it is the very principle of democracy.

The question you're ignoring is: what are the proper limits of government power? You claim I'm ignoring questions, but this is the only question of importance. I only bring up the drugs example to highlight an obvious abuse. Nuclear power is a more complex issue. When you're confused about arithmetic, we don't discuss calculus. Likewise, when you're confused about rights, we don't discuss nuclear power. We stick with simpler issues.

Re:Fukushima leak is 'much worse than we were led to believe' by nl on Friday August 23, 2013 @08:10PM (#6266965)
The limits of government power are whatever the society associated with that government decides they are.