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Re:I will not do a tech interview by peeters on Wednesday August 21, 2013 @01:18PM (#6251833)
It seems to me like software engineering is one of the only fields with people arrogant enough to assume that every good and passionate programmer should also be doing programming as a hobby.

I loved software engineering so much that I decided to turn it into a career, so that I could do it every day. But now you want me to do it every day and every night? No. My work during the day is fulfilling. My hobbies provide variety and an opportunity to pursue other interests.

Re:I will not do a tech interview by 7Figures2Commas on Wednesday August 21, 2013 @02:03PM (#6252194)
It seems to me that software engineering is one of the only fields with people arrogant enough to assume that employers should hire folks without being able to see what they've actually accomplished.

A "portfolio" does not have to, and should not, consist of side projects. Don't have any real code that you are allowed to share? Obviously, many employers won't hire engineers without reviewing existing code or having you engage in a coding exercise, but here's an idea: take a bunch of screenshots of public-facing applications/functionality you've built for your current and/or past employers. With WordPress and a $25 portfolio theme, you can have a decent-looking showcase of your work product up and running in a matter of hours.

If you have absolutely nothing that you can share (code, screenshots, a URL, a "case study") with a prospective employer, it's not the prospective employer that has a problem.

Re:I will not do a tech interview by dmatlack on Wednesday August 21, 2013 @02:27PM (#6252369)
What? Not everyone works on front-facing, UI applications. What if I contributed a good amount of code to a large tech company's networking infrastructure. What do you want me to show you? A picture of the servers? A picture of Amazon's homepage or google.com, if those are the companies I'm working for?

Not being able to show "code" or "screenshots" is not the fault of the prospective employee (as you "oh so subtly" implied with your last sentence).

Re:I will not do a tech interview by 7Figures2Commas on Wednesday August 21, 2013 @03:20PM (#6252696)
If you're concerned about your ability to convince a prospective employer that you're the real deal, that's for you to figure out, isn't it?

The point here is not what you share, but that you have something to share and can present it in a manner that's compelling to your prospective employer. In some cases, that might be nothing more than a well-written, detailed description of what you developed. In others, a picture is worth a thousand words and can a preferable format for somebody who isn't a great writer.

And finally, while I wouldn't be so naive as to argue that "engineering" equals "working on public-facing applications", engineers should consider the risks of roles that do not enable them to work on systems that are "visible" or "close to the money". Obviously, there are some industries and specializations that provide lucrative opportunities that don't do this, so there are exceptions. Not every young engineer, however, can realistically count on being able to build a decades-long career in these industries/roles.

Re:I will not do a tech interview by caw on Wednesday August 21, 2013 @02:55PM (#6252525)
> A "portfolio" does not have to, and should not, consist of side projects.

I agree with this

> If you have absolutely nothing that you can share (code, screenshots, a URL, a "case study") with a prospective employer, it's not the prospective employer that has a problem.

I disagree with this. If you require this to be true, you've instantly excluded everyone's experience in either government (particularly defense), or industry when you work on internal services. There's a huge number of enterprise developers at my current company who will never be able to show you their work because they're all internal applications. Maybe a "case study" would work, but you have to be real careful of not to cover anything that doesn't fall into the trade secret category.

Re:I will not do a tech interview by 7Figures2Commas on Wednesday August 21, 2013 @03:06PM (#6252609)
If you're in an industry where it's typical for candidates to be limited in what they can share, then ostensibly the hiring criteria and process would reflect this.
Re:I will not do a tech interview by pnathan on Wednesday August 21, 2013 @02:39PM (#6252437)
If I have two candidates and the only signals are (resume, portfolio), then I will select the highest signal. I am sorry, but I can't in conscience decide to take someone without proven work over someone with proven work without other information.

If your resume is significant, then I will probably add to the signals with a phone call followup. I'm not looking to create false negatives.

I also want to point out that taking some time to develop a small and interesting project (say, a pure left-leaning red-black tree with deletion - not much code, but tricky to get right) does not take that much time and massively demonstrates your capability over having nothing at all. It also demonstrates your social awareness of the state of the field when you have a github account with projects in recent technology.

Re:I will not do a tech interview by jarek on Wednesday August 21, 2013 @03:18PM (#6252690)
> If I have two candidates and the only signals are (resume, portfolio), then I will select the highest signal. I am sorry, but I can't in conscience decide to take someone without proven work over someone with proven work without other information.

On the upside, the person with a code portfolio and less other hobbies is also more likely to be winning to commit more of their time to work, stay later, do "hackathons." It's a win-win for the employer! /s