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Re:Forced Exposure by coldtea on Tuesday August 20, 2013 @07:01AM (#6242855)
>While elsewhere in the comments, there is the sentiment that "you can't code yourself out of this", my hopes of voting myself out of it (or otherwise "fixing" a system, as if it was just accidentally "broken") are much lower.

So you intent of fixing just a small point of the whole mess (the surveillance thing) and not the overall mess (bad governments, something that affects 100% of our life and countries)?

Not to mention there is nothing to fix this way. Everything can be outlawed, including mere use of unlocked general purpose computers as a non authorized professional in, say, 20 years time.

Re:Forced Exposure by bigiain on Tuesday August 20, 2013 @07:45AM (#6243021)
"Everything can be outlawed, including mere use of unlocked general purpose computers as a non authorized professional in, say, 20 years time."

I think that genie is well out-of-the-bottle.

Did you see the article recently about installing linux on the microcontroller on a hard disk controller board? There's no end of "consumer electronics" that have "general purpose computers" inside them. Hell, I'm helping out some people deploying christmas lights with a half-gigahertz ARM Linux board with wifi as a controller. (hardware details here: http://dev.moorescloud.com/2013/07/06/holiday-hardware-is-op... if you're curious). They've shipped over a million RaspberryPi's in the last 16 months - they're mostly still going to be useable in 20 years time, and between now and then pretty much every toy,appliance,car,tv,phone,coffeemachine,whatever is going to contain something capable of running linux...

Re:Forced Exposure by raintrees on Wednesday August 21, 2013 @03:59AM (#6248783)
Fertile ground for David Suarez' Daemon...
Re:Forced Exposure by rolux on Tuesday August 20, 2013 @07:25AM (#6242943)
No, I'm just saying that working technology (like general purpose computers as affordable consumer goods) may be harder to ignore than "the voice of the people".

(In Philosophy, you'd call this position "materialist", I assume.)