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Re:Is It Nuts to Give to the Poor Without Strings Attached? by eli_gottlieb on Sunday August 18, 2013 @01:34AM (#6231785)
That depends on the level of poverty. There's poverty and there's poverty.

There's poverty where you grow up on one box of macaroni and cheese per day and your parents are never home but you have a roof over your head and at least free school lunches. You're not actually dying or being exploited into human impotence. You just lack avenues to grow into a full and complete person who can escape poverty.

And then there's poverty once that same child grows up and the welfare system has been dismantled and there's no more public housing, so he/she is working two or three jobs just to afford a roof over their head, real food of any kind is unheard-of, and you'd kill for a good night's sleep or just one Sabbath meal -- if you had the energy to kill.

The latter kind, you can solve just by giving people money. At the very least, it raises them up to the former kind, and from there, all you might need to really improve their life might be a decent library or a community center or a good source of stable jobs.

There's no excuse for not contributing.

Re:Is It Nuts to Give to the Poor Without Strings Attached? by Muzza on Sunday August 18, 2013 @02:46AM (#6231913)
> There's no excuse for not contributing.

My effective income tax rate is 50%, and then there is an additional 25% VAT on everything I buy. How much more of my income does the all-knowing Eli Gottlieb suggest I "contribute"? Perhaps I should give away the remaining 25% and go live on the streets as a declaration of solidarity?

Re:Is It Nuts to Give to the Poor Without Strings Attached? by cmsmith on Sunday August 18, 2013 @03:51AM (#6232030)
Aside from the general tone of this, that's not how taxes work.

You can only pay VAT on the 50% of your income that you keep (and that is presuming you spend all of it). So you have 50% * 75% = 37.5% of your income left to give to charity.

I also find it a bit interesting that you are OK (presumably) with giving away 63% of your income to the government, where you have hardly any say in how it is spent, but offended at the idea that you should give anything else away when you can choose where it goes.

Re:Is It Nuts to Give to the Poor Without Strings Attached? by ahomescu1 on Sunday August 18, 2013 @05:23AM (#6232172)
I don't think he was OK with giving 63% of his income to the government. In addition, some part of that 63% is going to another form of charity: welfare. I can understand how someone, after seeing how a non-trivial part of their income is given away to local poor people, might not want to also give money to foreign poor people.
Re:Is It Nuts to Give to the Poor Without Strings Attached? by sgrove on Sunday August 18, 2013 @03:29AM (#6231991)
Please keep it civil.
Re:Is It Nuts to Give to the Poor Without Strings Attached? by eli_gottlieb on Sunday August 18, 2013 @04:18AM (#6232081)
Trust me, if I was claiming to be all-knowing, I wouldn't even bother with taxes.
Re:Is It Nuts to Give to the Poor Without Strings Attached? by nnethercote on Sunday August 18, 2013 @07:44AM (#6232403)
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