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Re:Bootstrap 3 RC2 by efsavage on Tuesday August 13, 2013 @08:45PM (#6209312)
Am I the only one that thinks v3 looks terrible?

I like v2 because I could just whip out a little internal site/admin console/etc. and it looked as good or better than most other similar things without changing anything. I have some stuff out there with 5-10 custom CSS rules for the whole project.

Now we've got v3 which has all sorts of wack colors and typography, like someone wanted to go "flat" but gave up halfway through.

Re:Bootstrap 3 RC2 by elithrar on Tuesday August 13, 2013 @08:55PM (#6209348)
> Now we've got v3 which has all sorts of wack colors and typography, like someone wanted to go "flat" but gave up halfway through.

The idea of BS3 wasn't so much "flat" as it was a "remove gradients to allow easier customisation". Previously (in BC2) you had to override a ton of stuff to get "sane" buttons again. BS3 just gives you simple buttons that you can add to immediately. Same goes for the nav-bar. I much prefer it this way.

Re:Bootstrap 3 RC2 by efsavage on Tuesday August 13, 2013 @09:02PM (#6209372)
I can see that, I guess it's just going after a different use case than I was using it for (i.e. the decent designer-less site). It has no real value to me if I have to go through and style everything over again.
Re:Bootstrap 3 RC2 by clone1018 on Tuesday August 13, 2013 @09:29PM (#6209473)
Just head on over to Bootswatch and pick out your favorite theme, that's your new bootstrap :p

My favorites so far are http://bootswatch.com/cerulean/

Re:Bootstrap 3 RC2 by gbadman on Wednesday August 14, 2013 @06:29AM (#6210727)
Wow, thanks for reminding me of http://bootswatch.com! I just checked it out again after having not looked for a while and I'm impressed with the v3-targeted swatches.
Re:Bootstrap 3 RC2 by GoNB on Tuesday August 13, 2013 @09:58PM (#6209552)
I see this reason a lot. Thing is, Bootstrap was never designed for your use case. It was always a framework to get started, meant for developers to build their designs upon.

Think of Bootstrap as a model car kit. Bootstrap 2 was a Porsche that had just enough paint that people ran with it in their showcase, but that was never Bootstrap's intention. You were meant to complete the kit before showing off. Version 3 is a Tesla, but this time no paint.

Re:Bootstrap 3 RC2 by jafaku on Tuesday August 13, 2013 @11:17PM (#6209764)
> for developers to build their designs

Don't you see a problem right there? In my opinion, it should at least come bundled with an optional style (the old Bootstrap2 style would be fine), so that we could at least use it for fast prototyping. In its current state, it's kind of useless since I'm gonna need a designer from day 1 anyway, because it looks terrible by default.

Re:Bootstrap 3 RC2 by aram on Wednesday August 14, 2013 @05:53AM (#6210642)
Here's the corresponding issue on Github: https://github.com/twbs/bootstrap/issues/8706
Re:Bootstrap 3 RC2 by maaaats on Wednesday August 14, 2013 @03:37AM (#6210309)
> it should at least come bundled with an optional style (the old Bootstrap2 style would be fine)

It will. :)

Re:Bootstrap 3 RC2 by markdotto on Tuesday August 13, 2013 @11:40PM (#6209813)
v3 will ship with a v2-ish theme that you can optionally enable.
Re:Bootstrap 3 RC2 by joeblau on Tuesday August 13, 2013 @11:45PM (#6209831)
Is there a way to communicate that to users better? I don't think a lot of devs understand that it's easier to build up on a flat button as opposed to trying to overwrite stylesheets on a gradient button. Maybe something in the features for the final release that helps developers understand that it's not flat for flat design, it's flat because it's easier to build on top of.
Re:Bootstrap 3 RC2 by markdotto on Tuesday August 13, 2013 @11:59PM (#6209868)
True, we could be louder about that. I'll get a tweet out about it shortly. To be honest I totally forgot about even mentioning it anywhere but in a few @ replies and issues on GitHub.

And once we add the theme, it'll become clear :).

Thanks for the feedback! <3