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Re:Hyperloop by ricardobeat on Monday August 12, 2013 @08:20PM (#6203195)
> I would image the tubes will be joined with automated friction stir welding or something similiar, but that will still require a fair amount of post weld machining which has its own pitfalls

The document mentions standard orbital seam wlelding, plus specialized machining equipment that travels along the tube to smooth out the gliding surface.

The capsules are only 60% the diameter of the tube, or 36% it's area (68/47% for the vehicle-carrying version), it doesn't seem to require tight tolerances for operation. I got the idea that tube distortion and movement is taken into account into the system.

Re:Hyperloop by jholman on Tuesday August 13, 2013 @06:22PM (#6208666)
> it doesn't seem to require tight tolerances for operation

Well, it's true that the top and sides of the tube don't get too close to the capsule, so those parts seem relatively low-tolerance, as you say.

But the load-bearing skis ride on an air bearing of 0.5mm to 1.3mm (see page 20), moving at over 1000km/h. As rossjudson notes, the skis are on mechanical suspension, to smooth out shocks to the riders, but it's not clear (to ignorant me) how much of a bump those skis can glide over. 0.1mm, no problem. What about 1.0mm?

On a related note, Musk seems sanguine about the sag you'd get in any structure supported by pylons (see e.g. page 27). Even with inch-thick steel walls, with pylons an average of 30m apart (100'), you'll see some sag, right? Any engineers want to comment on the deviation in 30m of inch-diameter-wall steel tubing? Let's see, 1200kph, 30m, so you pass a pylon 11 times per second. So in 0.09 seconds, you have to go from the top of one pylon, to the valley between two pylons, and back to the top of the next pylon. I guess that's all absorbed by the mechanical suspension?

Re:Hyperloop by eru on Wednesday August 14, 2013 @12:19AM (#6209921)
You could just build the tubes bending upwards slightly, so that the sag will pull them straight.
Re:Hyperloop by ajuc on Wednesday August 14, 2013 @02:14AM (#6210132)
Bridges and overpasses are already build that way.
Re:Hyperloop by DonPedro on Wednesday August 14, 2013 @07:19AM (#6210859)
No you could not. The steel tube will expand and contract as temperatures change. Along most of the route, that longitudinal movement of the tube will be in the 10s and 100s of feet, which means that the "valley" could be anywhere on the tube according to temperature.
Re:Hyperloop by JulianMorrison on Wednesday August 14, 2013 @12:40PM (#6212540)
Also, tubes will resonate and vibrate as vehicles go by. This could be actively damped at the pylons though, like they already considered doing for ground subsidence.