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Re:Cappuccino 0.7 Released by utx00 on Wednesday May 20, 2009 @09:12PM (#619660)
very informative. thanks.

i think in cappuccino you do everything in the "backend". there's no need to write javascript/html/css ... which is good in a lot of ways (you can output source for different devices, and i'm even guessing you could generate different backends - php, .NET) - but i'm more interested in the js/AJAX everything model, lighter on the backend.

i've never worked in objectiveC/J but js seems nicer at first glance. but i may just be saying that so that i don't feel like i would miss something should we choose etxjs.

more feedback would be appreciated guys.

Re:Cappuccino 0.7 Released by tlrobinson on Wednesday May 20, 2009 @09:35PM (#619686)
Actually it's the opposite, Cappuccino applications are mostly client-side, running on JavaScript. Objective-J is an extension to JavaScript, which gets compiled to JavaScript (either at runtime or ahead of time).
Re:Cappuccino 0.7 Released by utx00 on Thursday May 21, 2009 @04:18PM (#621062)
ok. ok. i misunderstood. interesting. so why wouldn't i just write javascript? what is the value added? aside from the fact that i'm not coding in javascript (which i don't consider a negative)
Re:Cappuccino 0.7 Released by tlrobinson on Friday May 22, 2009 @01:40AM (#621639)
JavaScript lacks several features useful in programming complex applications, namely classical inheritance, code importing, dynamic message dispatching. Objective-J adds these to JavaScript, but of course you still get all the features of JavaScript, since it's a superset of the language.
Re:Cappuccino 0.7 Released by utx00 on Friday May 22, 2009 @06:52PM (#622856)
surely all these things and more can be accomplished with straight javascript. look at jquery! and extjs, prototype, ...

jquery has gone so far that it is starting to smell like a DSL. all in js.

thanks for the feedback.

Re:Cappuccino 0.7 Released by utx00 on Thursday May 21, 2009 @07:52PM (#621313)
yes. but how is that generated js being served?
Re:Cappuccino 0.7 Released by utx00 on Thursday May 21, 2009 @08:27AM (#620297)
yes. but how is that generated js being served?
Re:Cappuccino 0.7 Released by e1ven on Thursday May 21, 2009 @11:57AM (#620628)
However you want. Nginx or Apache. It doesn't need a special server. Any interaction to the site/db/etc still goes through ruby or php or whatnot.
Re:Cappuccino 0.7 Released by tlrobinson on Thursday May 21, 2009 @03:47PM (#621017)
Any HTTP server. The runtime compilation takes place in the browser (the compiler is written in JavaScript). The pre-compilation uses a command line version of the compiler running in Rhino)
Re:Cappuccino 0.7 Released by utx00 on Sunday May 24, 2009 @06:08PM (#624713)
thanks. i think i'm sticking to js then.