Saying "I'm tempted to say x" = saying x.
Re:Why it's expensive to be poor
by davidmathers on Wednesday May 20, 2009 @08:51PM
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This is true. And my comment deserves all the down votes it gets. The "poor are irresponsible" comment pushed an anger button in me that I didn't even realize was there. I just had to vent.
Re:Why it's expensive to be poor
by mynameishere on Wednesday May 20, 2009 @10:30PM
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I never said the "poor are irresponsible", and there's no reason to get hot over things people don't say. What I said was: Excepting serious disadvantages (like being disabled) responsibility is the #1 factor in whether you're poor or not. If you think that your genius-level IQ made you non-poor, then you're short-selling yourself, which is a psychological folly. Picture your same life, with yourself have twice the IQ but 10x the laziness. Now what's your bank statement look like?
There's also a #2 factor and a #3 factor and a #4 factor, etc, and some of those reflect the hideous face of dame fortune. But attributing guilt to ANYONE, the winner or the loser, on chance, is a stupid mistake. So-and-so was born with a low IQ. Not my fault. In fact, as a eugenics supporter, I did my best to prevent it. (<-- joke)
Even though you guys are close to bickering, I have to say I like it that the comments on this site contain phrases like "reflect the hideous face of dame fortune."
Re:Why it's expensive to be poor
by mynameishere on Wednesday May 20, 2009 @07:57PM
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I'm not tempted to say "fuck you" since I don't know you, but I will point out that people in a wide range of IQs are capable of lucrative trades and professions
You're right, but it's also true that having a high IQ gives one an immense advantage.
Re:Why it's expensive to be poor
by stavrianos on Wednesday May 20, 2009 @11:02PM
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It's worth pointing out that IQ's advantage is a diminishing return. I imagine that the advantage is in how many people you're smarter than, rather that in how smart you ultimately are.
I think it's a bit of both: absolute IQ is important, because it determines what cognitive tasks you can do, and because if you have destructive or sub-optimal personal habits, high IQ means it's more likely you will notice and diagnose them.
It's true what they say about walking a mile in their shoes. You really have no idea what it's like.