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Re:Lavabit abruptly shuts down by IvyMike on Thursday August 08, 2013 @04:16PM (#6181579)
The "judge is not impressed" means they would probably view it as the same as just warning the public directly, with equivalent penalties.

And thus the canary is legally useless--if you're going to have the penalties of violating a national security order, might as well just do it in a straightforward manner.

Re:Lavabit abruptly shuts down by jlgreco on Thursday August 08, 2013 @04:19PM (#6181596)
At this point, it is speculation that the judge would not be impressed. If anyone decided to test the theory, the public would be informed regardless.
Re:Lavabit abruptly shuts down by jongraehl on Thursday August 08, 2013 @05:26PM (#6182042)
I agree, but your analysis is missing something: the canary-threatener may be secretly, without a public ruling, within the refresh interval, be convinced that if he doesn't keep updating (falsely) the canary, he'll go to jail. In other words, the precommitment to stop producing the canary signal isn't fully credible (though it seems much more likely to get the message out than a promise to actively say if something happens).
Re:Lavabit abruptly shuts down by patrickmay on Thursday August 08, 2013 @10:08PM (#6183267)
The technical solution to that social problem (yeah, we know how well those work) is to set the refresh interval to be less than the time required to process a motion contesting the government's order to update the canary.