Re:Snowden's Asylum: 'It's the law, stupid'
by cmdkeen on Thursday August 08, 2013 @08:27AM
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"Secret courts" - no, there aren't. The FISA system is about surveillance warrants not trials. It's nothing like the "secret courts" in countries that have given term its meaning.
Again men established those laws and run the "global spying" system. The USA isn't like Russia in terms of the state security apparatus controlling elections. Indeed Hoover's FBI days even managed to pale into comparison with what the Russians are up to today.
FISA and surveillance could be voted out by the elected representatives at any point, indeed it almost happened.
Re:Snowden's Asylum: 'It's the law, stupid'
by Volpe on Thursday August 08, 2013 @08:30AM
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> The USA isn't like Russia in terms of the state security apparatus controlling elections.
Yeah they are controlling other countries elections instead. Great high moral ground there ;)
No one has been able to bring down those (illegitimate) parts of the system yet, but some are trying. Although I have been defending the US in this thread but I know there are many, many things about it that need challenging. I am (for some reason) optimistic enough that its citizens will challenge it, and change it for the better.
Sure, if you ignore the secret courts and global spying, that no one seems to be able to challenge in "functioning system".