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Re:SimpleLegal (YC S13) Reduces Legal Bills With Machine Lea... by bradleyjg on Tuesday August 06, 2013 @12:49PM (#6167627)
Right now it's a buyer's market for legal services. Regardless of what the retainer says, if you call up the relationship partner and point out that you were just billed $1500 by a second year associate for photocopying he will work with you.

Beyond that larger clients are negotiating (imposing really) explicit conditions into thier agreements to prevent abusive billing. Things like minimum detail requirements (no more "5hr - lgl resrh"), no first year associates, no clerical work, etc. Then there's capped and flat fee billing.

Definitely a time of big changes.

Re:SimpleLegal (YC S13) Reduces Legal Bills With Machine Lea... by grabeh on Tuesday August 06, 2013 @01:08PM (#6167751)
Good points. It would definitely be a good feature if explicit retainer conditions could be fed into the system to analyse bills, and certainly a client is in a strong position where associates are photocopying.

The more interesting point would be like in the example provided in the article (billing half an hour for mailing) where the system considers the charge for the stated work to be excessive but the client may not be in as strong a position to question it as with the clear cut example you gave.

Definitely interesting times though!

Re:SimpleLegal (YC S13) Reduces Legal Bills With Machine Lea... by outericky on Tuesday August 06, 2013 @01:29PM (#6167895)
Most large companies (banks, insurance companies, large retailers) do have strict billing guidelines as to what firms can charge for.

We (SimpleLegal) will work with those guidelines and train our models accordingly.

Example: Walmart's Outside Counsel billing guidelines http://www.acc.com/advocacy/valuechallenge/toolkit/loader.cf...

Re:SimpleLegal (YC S13) Reduces Legal Bills With Machine Lea... by nwenzel on Tuesday August 06, 2013 @01:34PM (#6167926)
You know your way around a legal bill!

As bradleyjg points out, some charges make their way onto a bill when they shouldn't. It's usually not malicious.

The problem is that legal bills don't get enough attention from the law firm. They rely on the client to tell them when something is a problem. We make that process easier. And hopefully everybody, even the law firm, is happier.