Snowden granted 1-year asylum in Russia, leaves airport

Re:Snowden granted 1-year asylum in Russia, leaves airport by lgbr on Thursday August 01, 2013 @09:49AM (#6140259)

While a completely pacifist person would likely not face the gun, force is still applied, and the threat is still present. A person in their own home who fails to pay their taxes will be removed with as much force as the government needs to achieve compliance, whether that only needs a polite asking, handcuffs, handguns, machine guns, or rocket launchers.

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Re:Snowden granted 1-year asylum in Russia, leaves airport by nknighthb on Thursday August 01, 2013 @09:55AM (#6140293)

If you won't stop committing an illegal act, yes, they will eventually use some form of force to stop you. Guns will not be necessary unless you are actually threatening them with violence.

That is my point. By indicating you expect guns to be used, you indicate that you expect to be violent. At that point, you have surrendered your right to not be subjected to violence.

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Re:Snowden granted 1-year asylum in Russia, leaves airport by lgbr on Thursday August 01, 2013 @10:41AM (#6140598)

So if you keep peacefully not paying your taxes, you will be subjected to violence, yes? A person grabbing you and throwing you out of your house is violence, is it not?

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Re:Snowden granted 1-year asylum in Russia, leaves airport by nknighthb on Thursday August 01, 2013 @11:06AM (#6140779)

Violence and force are not the same thing, no. Violence is force or the threat of force intended or likely to cause injury. They will not "throw" you. They will carry you.

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