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Re:MIT Report is a whitewash. My Statement in Response by coldtea on Tuesday July 30, 2013 @12:57PM (#6128275)
>but this claim seems overreaching and narrow.

What's with this fear of reaching a conclusion and assigning blame?

Better give the individual that hanged himself the benefit of the doubt, than an organization like MIT that acted against him.

Re:MIT Report is a whitewash. My Statement in Response by mpyne on Tuesday July 30, 2013 @01:20PM (#6128448)
If all you're worried about is finding someone to point a finger at then your plan may well work.

If you want to prevent the next gifted hacker from hanging themselves, however, then it pays to search for the truth so that lessons can be learned from what actually happened, not merely from what scenario received the most benefit of the doubt.

Note I'm not saying the MIT Report constitutes the truth if Taren's assertions don't.

Re:MIT Report is a whitewash. My Statement in Response by jessaustin on Tuesday July 30, 2013 @02:53PM (#6129177)
If you want to prevent the next gifted hacker from hanging themselves...

Is that what we're doing here? I thought it was more about MIT administration being absolute shits to important, creative, contributing members of the community, and how they might stop doing that. Swartz's suicide is not the only thing that makes MIT's behavior shameful. Ideally, next time the administration will correct their craven, copsucking behavior before it gets to that point.

Re:MIT Report is a whitewash. My Statement in Response by mpyne on Tuesday July 30, 2013 @03:11PM (#6129300)
As far as I can tell the only thing MIT did that was disagreeable was not pushing harder against the felony variant of the CFAA charges.

"creating, contributing" member or not, Aaron didn't deserve extra privileges (or warrant worse punishment) compared to anyone else who had DDoS'ed MIT's network and repeatedly gained unauthorized access to their internal subnet.

MIT should not have allowed themselves to be used in throwing the book, but I would hardly call them a bunch of absolute shits over this.

Re:MIT Report is a whitewash. My Statement in Response by coldtea on Wednesday July 31, 2013 @05:05AM (#6132580)
>If you want to prevent the next gifted hacker from hanging themselves

No, I don't want to do that (not that I could).

What I want to do is to prevent the next gifted hacker from being prosecuted for BS and under overblown terms.

Re:MIT Report is a whitewash. My Statement in Response by EvanKelly on Tuesday July 30, 2013 @03:42PM (#6129513)
Because suicide is not that simple.

I've commented on threads like these before, and have mentioned that I lost a loved one to suicide. It was abundantly clear through journal entries and conversations as to what the impetus of self-harm was, but attributing those events as the things "responsible" for her suicide would have been shortsighted.

This thread seems to have devolved into an argument about whether Aaron or MIT was responsible for his suicide. That's the wrong question. We can all agree that MIT surely could and should have handled the situation differently, and I'm hesitant to say anything about Aaron's actions because I'm not informed enough.