Nate Silver Went Against the Grain for Some at The Times

Re:Nate Silver Went Against the Grain for Some at The Times by ebbv on Monday July 22, 2013 @06:52PM (#6086993)

I couldn't agree more. My respect for the NYT is shaky and them letting Nate Silver leave while keeping the vacuous talking heads you named is just shameful.

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Re:Nate Silver Went Against the Grain for Some at The Times by criley2 on Monday July 22, 2013 @06:57PM (#6087021)

It sounds like they made Nate an incredible offer and were willing to meet any of his demands. It sounds like they would have done anything to keep him.

Their offer to him was already grating to many others at the Times, I imagine. They offered him quite the little staff, and expansion into any topic he wanted.

I don't think his decision to leave was about their offer, that, or ESPN/ABC just dreamed bigger and gave him a bigger offer.

Either way, I'm psyched to see that he's getting brand separation and returning to his website along with a staff and the ability to write about whatever he wants.

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Re:Nate Silver Went Against the Grain for Some at The Times by jordanb on Monday July 22, 2013 @07:50PM (#6087289)

I'm glad Nate walked. He was always a poor fit at the New York Times.

Actually Krugman is also a poor fit. I wish he'd walk away and just keep doing what he does independently. At least then I wouldn't have to go into privacy mode to read his articles.

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Re:Nate Silver Went Against the Grain for Some at The Times by stfu on Monday July 22, 2013 @08:39PM (#6087450)

Absolutely agree! Kurgman is a poor fit for any media outlet that tries to appeal to a mainstream audience. It is just saddening that such a brilliant academic mind now dedicates his life to partisan punditry.

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Re:Nate Silver Went Against the Grain for Some at The Times by aclevername on Monday July 22, 2013 @08:52PM (#6087502)

Well, I love the concept of proto-Krugman as much as you, but nothing really keeps Krugman at NYT. He obviously enjoys the influence that punditry brings him over flexing his academic mind.

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Re:Nate Silver Went Against the Grain for Some at The Times by stfu on Monday July 22, 2013 @10:06PM (#6087752)

I am not sure if this is real influence or perceived influence. But it would be extremely interesting to get his personal take on his very own path towards punditry. In my opinion becoming just another shouting voice in the wind weakened his expert opinion that he previously had through his academic credentials. Previously quoting Krugman had at least some a general appeal, but today it is making a political statement.

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Re:Nate Silver Went Against the Grain for Some at The Times by nnethercote on Monday July 22, 2013 @11:19PM (#6088037)

Krugman has said himself that having a regular column in the most widely-read newspaper in the US is a huge source of influence.

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Re:Nate Silver Went Against the Grain for Some at The Times by inselkampf on Monday July 22, 2013 @10:03PM (#6087745)

No, Nate left.

Read this NiemanLab article from 2010. It was always clear (to me at least and a few others) that the NYT thing was just a step along the way (partnership vs acquisition - 3 yr contract, etc):

http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/06/articles-of-incorporation-n...

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Re:Nate Silver Went Against the Grain for Some at The Times by mattzito on Tuesday July 23, 2013 @12:41AM (#6088278)

The reality is that the NY Times was going to have him focus on politics, with the odd foray onto TV to promote his own brand.

Or, he could sign up with ESPN/Disney, and do sports on ESPN, politics on ABC, and so on.

He'll have a much broader level of impact at ESPN/ABC. I suspect NY Times just couldn't match that.

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