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Re:Wolfram Alpha to Launch Live on Justin.TV by ErrantX on Wednesday May 13, 2009 @01:41PM (#607253)
one thing that strikes me how can it logically say "the gdp of france / italy" should be interpreted as "the gdp of france divided by the gdp of Italy" that makes no sense to me.... clearly the context suggests that I want to know the GDP of both countries side by side.

Actually im underwhelmed by it :( which is sad.

Re:Wolfram Alpha to Launch Live on Justin.TV by noodle on Wednesday May 13, 2009 @01:50PM (#607274)
because it interprets "/" as mathematical division and "vs." as comparison.

they chose to use some specific, static operators so that you can do interesting things with the data, instead of having it simplify your request to what you "probably" want.

Re:Wolfram Alpha to Launch Live on Justin.TV by ErrantX on Wednesday May 13, 2009 @02:02PM (#607306)
how many non-mathematicl non techy people (who realistically might want data like this, say, for a school report) would use vs. rather than /. it's just not natural english.

I understand your point: and I would have figured it out. But this is marketed as an everydfay search engine - which it's not, it's an advanced search for an encyclopedia :)

Re:Wolfram Alpha to Launch Live on Justin.TV by noodle on Wednesday May 13, 2009 @02:05PM (#607314)
how many non-tech people would even assume that the search engine could produce this type of comparative results without learning about it first? in that process of learning, you learn how it works, and learn that /=division, vs=comparison

i imagine if it turns out to be a common problem, they'll probably give you a little reminder message about it. "if you're looking for data comparison, use vs. instead of /"

Re:Wolfram Alpha to Launch Live on Justin.TV by fb on Wednesday May 13, 2009 @05:24PM (#607684)
That little learning for technically literate (small percentage of users) could be a show stopper for the rest. Many people are scared of even the simple maths (sad but true).
Re:Wolfram Alpha to Launch Live on Justin.TV by programnature on Wednesday May 13, 2009 @02:14PM (#607337)
Isn't it silly to judge a huge system by a single query which happened to to one logical thing instead of another?
Re:Wolfram Alpha to Launch Live on Justin.TV by programnature on Wednesday May 13, 2009 @01:50PM (#607275)
That is an interesting interpretation, though I think its correct to assume that you are trying to specify a computation rather than presentation.

In general its best to thing of that input field as a API with a huge syntax space, rather than something that is actually "understanding" anything. Getting the side-by-side comparisons can be done in many ways, like just using a comma instead of /

Re:Wolfram Alpha to Launch Live on Justin.TV by ErrantX on Thursday May 14, 2009 @04:33AM (#608425)
my main point is that it is the "understanding" idea that WA is being presented as (either by Wolfram or the media I dont know). It obviously isnt: so people will get confused...
Re:Wolfram Alpha to Launch Live on Justin.TV by gustavo_duarte on Wednesday May 13, 2009 @01:48PM (#607269)
He mentions that simply putting items in a series would generate comparisons, so I think you'd get what you want by taking out the / operator.

(edited, no need for "vs.", just series seems to do the trick)