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Re:Switching from Gmail to FastMail by bowlofpetunias on Friday July 19, 2013 @09:56AM (#6070153)
> their servers are in New York

For us as a European business, that's a dealbreaker. It's not that we are completely paranoid and migrating off of American systems in a big hurry, but moving forward, not in the US and not owned by an American company is a requirement for any new service we use.

Even if we didn't care, we have to take into account our clients, and "no data under US control" has become not just a selling point, but a strict condition for many projects.

This was already very much the case before the PRISM scandal, and it's only going to get worse now.

Re:Switching from Gmail to FastMail by dioltas on Friday July 19, 2013 @08:23PM (#6073783)
Do you know of any good alternatives with servers outside the US?
Re:Switching from Gmail to FastMail by nly on Friday July 19, 2013 @10:02AM (#6070186)
You're naive if you think hosting in Europe means you're necessarily any safer.
Re:Switching from Gmail to FastMail by tomp on Friday July 19, 2013 @10:12AM (#6070243)
For (European) businesses, it's not the issue of safety, but the issue of compliance. If I (EU citizen) have personal data with EU company that stores said data on US-controlled servers, they are potentially viable for breach of data-protection laws. Since these laws are EU laws, it wouldn't be a problem if EU governments would read this data, since that's governed by the same set of laws.
Re:Switching from Gmail to FastMail by steveklabnik on Friday July 19, 2013 @10:27AM (#6070354)
It doesn't matter if clients are naive or not, it matters if they have a checkbook.
Re:Switching from Gmail to FastMail by iandundas on Friday July 19, 2013 @10:31AM (#6070377)
Well that's how it would seem, in the wake of the Snowden revelations.