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Re:Detroit files for Chapter 9 bankruptcy amid staggering de... by fnordfnordfnord on Thursday July 18, 2013 @06:12PM (#6066906)
It's not as though they let the garbage man write his own pension.

It's funny, when a bank NINJA-loans a half-million dollars for a 1000ft^2 bungalow, it's always the-purchaser-took-advantage-of-the-bank, and never, the-bank-should-have-known-better-and-deserves-to-go-broke.

Re:Detroit files for Chapter 9 bankruptcy amid staggering de... by tptacek on Thursday July 18, 2013 @06:15PM (#6066917)
The banks are presumably going to take a huge bath on bonds they bought from Detroit.
Re:Detroit files for Chapter 9 bankruptcy amid staggering de... by wpietri on Thursday July 18, 2013 @06:46PM (#6067056)
Is there reason to think that banks are major unhedged bondholders who will actually take losses?
Re:Detroit files for Chapter 9 bankruptcy amid staggering de... by TheCondor on Thursday July 18, 2013 @08:48PM (#6067612)
I'd expect Detroit pension funds to be the bigger bond holders of Detroit bonds... No bank of note will have much exposure, the banks aren't stupid.

Any one know what kinds of perks Michigan as for state munis? In colorado you get a tax break on them.

Re:Detroit files for Chapter 9 bankruptcy amid staggering de... by fnordfnordfnord on Thursday July 18, 2013 @06:22PM (#6066951)
If they do, it's only because Detroit literally has nothing of value left that can be taken.
Re:Detroit files for Chapter 9 bankruptcy amid staggering de... by tptacek on Thursday July 18, 2013 @06:24PM (#6066954)
"If they do"? Help me understand the word "if" there?
Re:Detroit files for Chapter 9 bankruptcy amid staggering de... by fnordfnordfnord on Thursday July 18, 2013 @06:27PM (#6066972)
If, as in if the Federal Gov't doesn't bail them out.
Re:Detroit files for Chapter 9 bankruptcy amid staggering de... by anonymoushn on Thursday July 18, 2013 @06:22PM (#6066952)
No, certainly the garbage man doesn't write down his own pension. His union negotiates with the government over how much money (that doesn't belong to either of them at the time) to promise to all garbage men.

Banks deserve to be exposed to the risk they assume in general, but this issue has problems in addition to the problem of banks being sheltered from risk.