Fear and Loathing in Programming La La Land (2012)

Re:Fear and Loathing in Programming La La Land (2012) by jerf on Monday July 15, 2013 @02:56PM (#6047774)

It's convenient that the poster initialized the relevant flame war this will degenerate into right in his post there. A discussion about the best way to structure APIs is surely not complete without flaming people about being elitist and that opportunistic programmers exist, and more flames about the fact that since they are producing lots of real world programs you should just shut up about them. I appreciate the guidance. I might have accidentally started flaming about event-based programming or the utility of NULL pointers instead, you know, and that would just be gauche.

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Re:Fear and Loathing in Programming La La Land (2012) by coldtea on Monday July 15, 2013 @09:32PM (#6049554)

>A discussion about the best way to structure APIs is surely not complete without flaming people about being elitist and that opportunistic programmers exist, and more flames about the fact that since they are producing lots of real world programs you should just shut up about them.

The initial posting was structured to very much ignite a flame war, already from the title ("programming la-la land").

It was arrongant, condescending, and, as far as it's content is concerned, shallow.

Basically merely a few quick remarks that were supposed to take down a proper study (of which the "critic" misunderstood the scope, reasoning, and who it concerns).

As for the existence of "opportunistic coders" (a concept which he also misunderstood), he wasn't told to "just shut up about them", but to understand that whatever the fuck his objections are, they are a real group, they are valuable, and an organization operating in real life needs to also catter for them.

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Re:Fear and Loathing in Programming La La Land (2012) by tome on Wednesday July 17, 2013 @07:59AM (#6057151)

> The initial posting was structured to very much ignite a flame war

If that is indeed true, you will notice from the replies to his message that he definitely did not succeed. However, I prefer to interpret it at face value. He does say "Frankly, I've turned here for a bit of comfort. If anyone likes completely initialising things rather than smacking one field at a time, surely I will find such people here.". To me it is just venting amongst friends.

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Re:Fear and Loathing in Programming La La Land (2012) by jerf on Tuesday July 16, 2013 @10:29AM (#6052070)

Now that discussion has passed, I'll point out that my post was basically an attempt to subtly immunize HN against the flamewar, disguised as a bit of humor. May have worked, we didn't have one, but who knows if we would have.

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