Re:Adam Langley's Pond: Secure Async Messaging
by tptacek on Saturday July 13, 2013 @10:22PM
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Why does Langley need your forgiveness for not supporting DANE? DANE is arguably worse than X.509 CAs.
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Re:Adam Langley's Pond: Secure Async Messaging
by 9h1d9j809s on Sunday July 14, 2013 @02:49AM
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Why? Because DNSSEC can be attacked by the DNS root?
It seemed to be our best attempt to get SSL for every website. CA-based certificates just won't cut it.
Re:Adam Langley's Pond: Secure Async Messaging
by tptacek on Sunday July 14, 2013 @10:40AM
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Because replacing a PKI run by companies that the NSA can coerce with a PKI run by the US Government doesn't seem like a good plan? That, along with the litany of reasons why DNSSEC is a terrible design; that it doesn't secure queries from stub resolvers where the need is greatest; that it publishes internal zone names; that it breaks the resolver API and will inevitably create outages; I can go on.
(I doubt this is what's held up DANE; rather, the unreliability of DNS compared to hyper-optimized HTTPS/TLS connections is the issue there; browser vendors care about milliseconds.)
Re:Adam Langley's Pond: Secure Async Messaging
by tikums on Sunday July 14, 2013 @02:03AM
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How is it worse than X.509?
Re:Adam Langley's Pond: Secure Async Messaging
by marshray on Sunday July 14, 2013 @02:16AM
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Here we go again :-)
Re:Adam Langley's Pond: Secure Async Messaging
by denibertovic on Sunday July 14, 2013 @08:04AM
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can anyone point to a link that explains X.509
s shortcomings? I'd really like to read up on that but can't find any sane info.
Re:Adam Langley's Pond: Secure Async Messaging
by marshray on Sunday July 14, 2013 @02:45PM
(#6041730)
Haha consider the possibility that some of the insane ranting you hear about x.509 is actually balanced and accurate criticism :-)
Re:Adam Langley's Pond: Secure Async Messaging
by denibertovic on Monday July 15, 2013 @08:26AM
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hehe, so true.