Re:I understood gender discrimination once I added “Mr.” to ...
by Camillo on Friday July 12, 2013 @08:37PM
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What is sexist, the fact that men and women handle the work/home balance in very different ways, or the company's recognition of that fact?
Re:I understood gender discrimination once I added “Mr.” to ...
by rayiner on Friday July 12, 2013 @08:49PM
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The company's assumption that the stereotype of how women handle work life balance applies to any specific woman. That's pretty much the definition of sexism. Also, the fact that a company would never ask if a man had any time consumer hobbies or other sorts of things that might prevent them giving 100% to their jobs, because when kids and women aren't involved, companies generally assume that their employees are grownups and can balance their various obligations like grownups.
Re:I understood gender discrimination once I added “Mr.” to ...
by klipt on Saturday July 13, 2013 @05:00AM
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By that metric, car insurance companies are also sexist - they charge individual men more because stereotypically men are riskier. Of course, that stereotype is based on data, but so is the stereotype that women take more time off when they have children.
Why is it legal to discriminate based on data in some situations but not others? I think the only solution is to remove the logical justification for discrimination: force men and women to take equal parental leave.
Re:I understood gender discrimination once I added “Mr.” to ...
by boyter on Saturday July 13, 2013 @08:52AM
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I have always wondered if insurance companies had the data to show that people of Asian decent (for example) have more car accidents, could they jack up their insurance premiums?
Re:I understood gender discrimination once I added “Mr.” to ...
by jack-r-abbit on Saturday July 13, 2013 @12:02PM
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No. That would be racist. There are all sorts of protected groups. Men is not one of them.
Re:I understood gender discrimination once I added “Mr.” to ...
by blibble on Saturday July 13, 2013 @09:20AM
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discrimination based on sex for insurance is now unlawful in the UK, as of last year.
as a result car insurance prices for women increased significantly, while mens remained the same.
additionally annuity rates for men dropped, while those for women remained the same (the provider is no longer allowed to factor in that men on average die several years earlier).
Re:I understood gender discrimination once I added “Mr.” to ...
by sokoloff on Saturday July 13, 2013 @12:27PM
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That annuity case is batshit-crazy, IMO. Sad that we've gone so far in the chase for fairness that we demand equality in the name of fairness in cases where it makes no sense.
I'm all for fairness. Equal is not fair in all cases, nor is fair equal in all cases...
Re:I understood gender discrimination once I added “Mr.” to ...
by prodigal_erik on Saturday July 13, 2013 @03:49AM
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If I had any other time-consuming hobby and started phoning it in at work, the company could tell me I may be dismissed if I don't shape up. Only parents get the nuclear option, and thankfully most of them don't abuse the possibility very heavily.
Re:I understood gender discrimination once I added “Mr.” to ...
by rayiner on Saturday July 13, 2013 @04:16AM
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That's because parenthood ensures that companies have future customers, while hobbies don't. Facebook stock isn't worth much if all the 13-25 year olds that buy the crap advertisers peddle on it is a shrinking demographic!
That's sexism, plain and simple. Who are they to assume she's going to take extended maternity leave and be the primary care giver? They would never ask that of a man (most male law partners are married and have kids), because they would as assume that his wife would take care of the kids. That's sexism.