Ubuntu 13.10 to ship with Mir instead of X

Re:Ubuntu 13.10 to ship with Mir instead of X by pyre on Thursday July 11, 2013 @11:01PM (#6030666)

  | Some will decry FBSD's support for
  | suspend/hibernate, but since I never
  | use those features it's a non issue for me.

This is how most people use a laptop. While that may be perfectly fine for you, that doesn't work for a lot of people.

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Re:Ubuntu 13.10 to ship with Mir instead of X by D9u on Thursday July 11, 2013 @11:46PM (#6030805)

A 12 cell battery lasts a long time on this little netbook. But you're right, I'm not most people.

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Re:Ubuntu 13.10 to ship with Mir instead of X by jlgreco on Friday July 12, 2013 @12:28AM (#6030923)

How do you pack up your laptop and bring it somewhere else without it melting down in the bag? Just make sure nothing is burning CPU, pack it up, and hope for the best?

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Re:Ubuntu 13.10 to ship with Mir instead of X by hobs on Friday July 12, 2013 @01:57AM (#6031166)

I assume he uses the shut down feature.

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Re:Ubuntu 13.10 to ship with Mir instead of X by D9u on Friday July 12, 2013 @03:48AM (#6031414)

Of course. Why does the netbook have to stay running if I'm not using it?

Sometimes the simplest things are so abstruse to some of us.

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Re:Ubuntu 13.10 to ship with Mir instead of X by jlgreco on Friday July 12, 2013 @04:14AM (#6031507)

Losing long-running sessions is kind of a pain in the ass.. if you can keep them going, why wouldn't you?

Are you able to at least suspend to disk?

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Re:Ubuntu 13.10 to ship with Mir instead of X by D9u on Friday July 12, 2013 @04:19PM (#6034935)

You can save your sessions at log out.

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Re:Ubuntu 13.10 to ship with Mir instead of X by pyre on Friday July 12, 2013 @10:04PM (#6036416)

Depends what you meant be 'save your sessions.' If you have an entire environment setup with multiple applications open in various states, then no, you can't 'save state' in any way that I know of (other than suspend-to-disk). It can also be a pain in the ass to setup said environment again.

On the flip side:

- Using suspend-to-RAM is less secure.

- Enabling secure swap (at least on Linux with in a password-less setup[1]) doesn't work with suspend-to-disk.

[1] In a password-less setup, there is no way to recover the swap after a fresh boot since the key is regenerated on every boot (at least it was the case the last time that I manually setup encrypted swap).

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Re:Ubuntu 13.10 to ship with Mir instead of X by venomsnake on Friday July 12, 2013 @03:59AM (#6031458)

I have been using my notebook lately while on the move as an external battery for the tablet. Just plug the usb, put the laptop on suspend and you have 12 hours of decent performance ahead of you - so suspend is somewhat important for me right now. (8 hours in a bus is testing experience)

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Re:Ubuntu 13.10 to ship with Mir instead of X by jamii on Friday July 12, 2013 @07:55AM (#6032109)

One of my favorite features on my current laptop is the USB port that is connected directly to the battery, so it charges even when the laptop is not turned on.

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Re:Ubuntu 13.10 to ship with Mir instead of X by pyre on Friday July 12, 2013 @10:06PM (#6036421)

What laptop is this? Is this an advertised feature or something that you only got information on in some obscure way (newsgroups, forums, etc vs. the official manual)?

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Re:Ubuntu 13.10 to ship with Mir instead of X by jamii on Sunday July 14, 2013 @06:45AM (#6040542)

Alienware M11X R2. It's not really advertised, I just noticed the option in the bios one day - http://www.techmonsters.com/DellTraining/bin/Foundation2010/... . It's ridiculously useful when travelling - if I don't use my laptop I get an extra 2/3 days worth of battery for my phone.

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