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Re:Quinoa should be taking over the world. This is why it isn’t by lukasb on Thursday July 11, 2013 @08:12PM (#6030113)
More typically, farmers produce 10 units, sell 3, and buy another 10 later in the year. Hence any rise in price is a net loss for them.
Re:Quinoa should be taking over the world. This is why it isn’t by marshray on Thursday July 11, 2013 @08:16PM (#6030130)
How did that ever work?
Re:Quinoa should be taking over the world. This is why it isn’t by lukasb on Thursday July 11, 2013 @08:22PM (#6030150)
Well, in western Kenya anyway:

1. Farmers used to have 100-200 acres apiece. At that point you can feed a family even with very low yields. There were few (if any) large-scale farming operations for them to buy from, anyway.

2. Each generation, the farmer would divide the land up amongst his sons.

3. Fast-forward to today, farmers have more like 2 acres, and with traditional farming techniques don't have enough yield to feed their families.

4. They make up the difference with cattle, chickens, beans, odd jobs - or don't make up the difference, as malnutrition and starvation are a constant problem. But if they make enough money, there is a national maize market to buy from, which previously there wasn't. Hence, they're net maize consumers.

Re:Quinoa should be taking over the world. This is why it isn’t by sambe on Friday July 12, 2013 @02:54AM (#6031284)
From reading the grandparent:

"subsistence farmers are net consumers of their staple crop. In order to survive, the poor diversify across a variety of agricultural products"

I don't understand the downvotes for the parent. They are growing other products, or have cash from other activities, and use this to buy the staple they can't grow. If price of staple rises and price of other products and services does not, they can't afford to do this. The beneficiaries are large industrial farmers of the staple. Did I miss something?

Re:Quinoa should be taking over the world. This is why it isn’t by nknighthb on Friday July 12, 2013 @04:33AM (#6031589)
The part where even if that is true, there are other, cheaper staples. This should be a classic self-correcting problem. The world as a whole has gotten by on staples other than quinoa. Now that the market price of this particular local staple has skyrocketed, it can be sold in exchange for greater quantities of less-expensive staples used elsewhere.

If there is in fact a problem (and I do question its existence), I believe lukasb is looking for it in the wrong place.

Re:Quinoa should be taking over the world. This is why it isn’t by lukasb on Friday July 12, 2013 @12:10PM (#6033343)
They don't have access to other, cheaper staples. These are geographically isolated farmers in countries with poor infrastructure.
Re:Quinoa should be taking over the world. This is why it isn’t by nknighthb on Friday July 12, 2013 @03:37PM (#6034680)
If the quinoa can get out, other things can get in.
Re:Quinoa should be taking over the world. This is why it isn’t by acchow on Thursday July 11, 2013 @08:32PM (#6030186)
It didn't. You're just reading bullshit economics masquerading as insight.
Re:Quinoa should be taking over the world. This is why it isn’t by Gormo on Friday July 12, 2013 @01:52AM (#6031150)
Where does the second set of 10 units come from?
Re:Quinoa should be taking over the world. This is why it isn’t by lukasb on Friday July 12, 2013 @12:11PM (#6033357)
Large-scale industrial farming operations. That was the case in Kenya, anyway.