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Re:Secret government: America against democracy by tptacek on Tuesday July 09, 2013 @10:39PM (#6017129)
Ordinarily, I wouldn't. I don't think I should have to pass an ideological purity test to put forward a descriptive argument about how FISC works.

But I found this article because Paul Graham twerped (approvingly) about it, and bothered to comment because HN was an easier place to disagree with him about the quality of the article than Twitter.

In doing that, I didn't want the thread to become a gigantic pointless fight about who does or doesn't support the surveillance state. It was a courtesy, is all.

Re:Secret government: America against democracy by delackner on Wednesday July 10, 2013 @01:47AM (#6017692)
It is perfectly reasonable to maybe make one comment saying "I think congress should just abolish this abomination, and be done with it" would be a measured response to this side-issue. Spending a lot of energy arguing about the acceptability of the FISA spying on foreigners or not having any adversarial component just probably riles up people who are understandably very upset at the larger situation. I guess what I'm saying is having a long argument about all this is like being the political version of a grammar nazi.
Re:Secret government: America against democracy by rayiner on Wednesday July 10, 2013 @08:42AM (#6019081)
Using poor grammer usually just makes you look uneducated. Misunderstanding the structure of a potentially problematic situation makes you powerless to solve it, and makes it easy for people on the other side to dismiss your concerns.
Re:Secret government: America against democracy by fixxer on Wednesday July 10, 2013 @12:05AM (#6017390)
So, really, how long did you work for the NSA?

;P