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Re:Seth Vidal, creator of yum, killed in hit and run accident by kylec on Tuesday July 09, 2013 @04:02PM (#6015011)
And yet Seth Vidal is dead, and the driver remains alive.

In an ideal world bicycles are given equal respect and stature on the roads. In practice, however, riders have a lot more to lose in a collision with a car.

Re:Seth Vidal, creator of yum, killed in hit and run accident by baddox on Tuesday July 09, 2013 @04:22PM (#6015166)
> In an ideal world bicycles are given equal respect and stature on the roads.

Since you mentioned "an ideal world," I'm going to completely disagree. I think that bicycles and automobiles sharing roads is, at best, a manageable but extremely dangerous situation. Like it or not, bicycles and automobiles behave very differently, and require their surrounding vehicles to behave very differently. In an ideal world, there would be separate thoroughfares for automobiles and bicycles, and neither would be allowed on the other (like we already mostly have for pedestrians)

Re:Seth Vidal, creator of yum, killed in hit and run accident by bagels on Tuesday July 09, 2013 @04:54PM (#6015414)
Excepting of course, the millions of intersections and driveways. You know, besides those.
Re:Seth Vidal, creator of yum, killed in hit and run accident by baddox on Tuesday July 09, 2013 @05:12PM (#6015536)
Well, pedestrians already have separate thoroughfares and are not allowed on roads, right? What's the difference?
Re:Seth Vidal, creator of yum, killed in hit and run accident by bagels on Tuesday July 09, 2013 @06:33PM (#6016136)
(like we already mostly have for pedestrians)

If you're talking about sidewalks, it's barely separate, as in a city there are conflicting paths between the road and the sidewalk every dozen feet (every driveway or intersection).

Re:Seth Vidal, creator of yum, killed in hit and run accident by baddox on Tuesday July 09, 2013 @06:35PM (#6016150)
Crossing a street is a lot different than traveling with the flow of traffic in a lane.
Re:Seth Vidal, creator of yum, killed in hit and run accident by kylec on Tuesday July 09, 2013 @05:22PM (#6015608)
Well, in an ideal world it would be both perfectly manageable and not dangerous, but I think we're both saying the same thing. Cars and bicycles are very different and bad things tend to happen when they share the same roadway.