Yasiin Bey (aka Mos Def) force-fed under standard Guantánamo Bay procedure

Re:Yasiin Bey (aka Mos Def) force-fed under standard Guantán... by epistasis on Monday July 08, 2013 @10:46AM (#6007013)

> but they were caught fighting against Allied forces in a war zone.

Wow, that is incredibly misinformed. And even if it were true (it is not), it does not justify torture. Torture is always despicable, and there's a permanent moral stain on the nation that perpetrates torture, no matter who is being tortured. There is no excuse. No excuse.

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Re:Yasiin Bey (aka Mos Def) force-fed under standard Guantán... by rayiner on Monday July 08, 2013 @11:13AM (#6007152)

Torture is despicable, but there is an ongoing debate about whether anything going on at Guantanamo (as opposed to Abu Ghraib) is actually torture under the international definitions. It's not a settled issue like you're making it out to be.

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Re:Yasiin Bey (aka Mos Def) force-fed under standard Guantán... by yardie on Monday July 08, 2013 @11:55AM (#6007390)

> there is an ongoing debate

Is this like the debate on climate change? Where 99.99% of the scientists agree it's man made, yet a few others think it's natural.

> It's not a settled issue like you're making it out to be.

Yeah, I think it's pretty much settled by everyone but the US government.

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Re:Yasiin Bey (aka Mos Def) force-fed under standard Guantán... by tptacek on Monday July 08, 2013 @12:08PM (#6007459)

It seems pretty clear that torture did happen at/around GTMO, and that it ceased (modulo force feeding) under Obama.

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Re:Yasiin Bey (aka Mos Def) force-fed under standard Guantán... by jayfuerstenberg on Monday July 08, 2013 @10:33PM (#6010755)

I think this is why Mod Def decided to volunteer for this procedure.

He wanted to show us the degree to which it is or isn't torture.

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