Help wanted: Seasoned wikipedia editors to write a proper article about Fravia
A mourning friend of Fravia, new to Wikipedia, is trying to write an article about him, but his lack of experience triggered the heavy hand of admins, and the article is currently a semi-protected minimal stub.
I didn't know Fravia until yesterday, so I'm in a bad position to help him personaly, besides trying to explain him the local, arid rules, but it's a bit hard to explain that to a man in sorrow. The stub is here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fravia, and the WIP article here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fravia/WIP
On a related note, there seems to be little reliable information (in the Wikipedia meaning of reliable) about Fravia. He was more of an underground hero.
Having an eulogy or a tribute published in a respected publication may help sourcing the article. I know it's silly to have an eulogy written only for that purpose, but Wikipedia has become the default knowledge repository, and it would be a shame not to have an article about him. If (the friend of) a high profile hacker who knew or was influenced by Fravia read this, it would be nice if he could do something about it.
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On a related note, there seems to be little reliable information (in the Wikipedia meaning of reliable) about Fravia. He was more of an underground hero.
Having an eulogy or a tribute published in a respected publication may help sourcing the article. I know it's silly to have an eulogy written only for that purpose, but Wikipedia has become the default knowledge repository, and it would be a shame not to have an article about him. If (the friend of) a high profile hacker who knew or was influenced by Fravia read this, it would be nice if he could do something about it.
Is there someone here who knows RMS?
Wait until he's done mourning. Then write the article. It's a whole lot harder to write well when you're grieving.
Other facts that would help: when his pages were published for the first time, who helped with hosting, when he decided to change cracking content for searching stuff, etc.
He gave some talks at conferences and knew some famous people. Who, when, where? The family can assist with references. Don't forget to keep searching Google: people that knew him could be writing right now something that could be accepted as a reference.
And don't be confrontational with wikipedists! They seem to be taking a constructive approach.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ISNOT
Also, while Fravia's own site is a reliable source for raw facts about Fravia, it's not a reliable source that establishes his notability. Nor is there any such thing as a "Google Test" for notability (that argument gets tried and fails in AfD's every day), nor is the "number of people trying to edit the page" a reliable indicator of notability.
I know all of that, and, for the best of me, I try to play by the rules, and to give proper arguments for my views.
Somewhat skinny on details, but it's a start and mentions several other potential sources.
Google translation: http://bit.ly/qNv0K
I have neither the time nor inclination to aid in creating the Wikipedia page, but am very interested in seeing it done well.
-R