Bolivia says Morales' plane diverted, apparently over Snowden

Re:Bolivia says Morales' plane diverted, apparently over Sno... by kriro on Wednesday July 03, 2013 @05:00AM (#5983272)

I was not even aware that site exists. Pretty fascinating stuff, thx for posting.

I'm surprised Poland let him pass if Snowden was really supposed to be on board. US-Polish relations are generally pretty good.

Russia->South America without clashing with the US seems like an interesting problem. If Italy,France,Spain,Portugal is blocked you pretty much have to take a giant detour, go through Africa or try flying out east of Russia (which immediately puts you close to the US). Probably have to go on a very southeast route right away...which basically means he might have been better off going Hong Kong->Ecuador if he could have negotiated that option sooner

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Re:Bolivia says Morales' plane diverted, apparently over Sno... by viraptor on Wednesday July 03, 2013 @05:10AM (#5983307)

> US-Polish relations are generally pretty good.

Are they that good? I got an impression they were pretty good while Poland was still promised things like joining the visa waiver program. Now I think many people are quite annoyed at the outcome / delaying for years. The whole project of rocket interception sites is also bringing up some interesting questions lately.

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Re:Bolivia says Morales' plane diverted, apparently over Sno... by spottr on Wednesday July 03, 2013 @06:03AM (#5983464)

Currently Polish government is so pro-USA that our Minister of Foreign Affairs preemptively declined asylum for Snowden using his Twitter [1][2]. It's funny, because instead of building better relations with our neighbors "we" are constantly trying to please the US. This trend continues despite being given nothing but empty promises for years. So yeah, our gov likes to think and say (loudly) that those relations are pretty good -- hard to say if it's because they want to keep their face or for whatever reason. I think that US also likes this arrangement a lot, because free service can't be bad [3].

[1] https://twitter.com/sikorskiradek/status/351959186072027139 [polish]

[2] https://twitter.com/sikorskiradek/status/352062021082165249

[3] http://rt.com/news/poland-drops-charges-investigation-136/

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Re:Bolivia says Morales' plane diverted, apparently over Sno... by smackay on Wednesday July 03, 2013 @05:57AM (#5983447)

I think you are seeing the "true" influence of government to government relations, rather than the general sentiment on the street or the empty rhetoric from officials. France made a big noise about the spying allegations but quickly blocked access to its airspace.

Personally, the action by France and Portugal this made this whole web of deceit even more unpalatable. Time for a few leaders to grow a pair.

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