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Re:4chan now offers self-serve advertising starting at $20 by eli_gottlieb on Monday July 01, 2013 @05:09PM (#5973567)
No, actually. I don't go to /b/. I can't even follow /b/; I try to keep track of a single thread or meme and it completely gets away from me. But as I said, there are some boards filled with blatant neo-Nazis, some filled with some of the world's more disgusting pornography, blah blah blah.

Now, if you want to call it "the last bastion of freedom [to spread hate ideologies, post loli hentai, etc]", go ahead. However, be clear that you are defending the freedom to commit immoral acts.

4chan is the Mal Reynolds of the internet, not Luke Skywalker.

Re:4chan now offers self-serve advertising starting at $20 by jlgreco on Monday July 01, 2013 @05:16PM (#5973610)
At various times in history the ACLU has defended the KKK.

I see no problem with defending freedom of horrible people. Both from an ethical standpoint, and from a pragmatic standpoint (I would rather those people communicate in a way that has some visibility/oversight. You are not going to stop them, only push them underground; I think most would agree that would be a bad thing.)

Re:4chan now offers self-serve advertising starting at $20 by eli_gottlieb on Monday July 01, 2013 @05:30PM (#5973694)
At various times in history the ACLU has defended the KKK.

Yes, and? If you actually believe in free speech, calling someone a Horrible Person is not a disguised argument for shutting them down.

4chan is full of really horrible people. Sometimes I am one of them. This doesn't mean they should be shut down by the government or something. However, it also doesn't mean they're Glorious Heroes Fighting For Righteousness.

Re:4chan now offers self-serve advertising starting at $20 by jlgreco on Monday July 01, 2013 @05:56PM (#5973846)
> However, it also doesn't mean they're Glorious Heroes Fighting For Righteousness.

Who is arguing that?

Re:4chan now offers self-serve advertising starting at $20 by eli_gottlieb on Tuesday July 02, 2013 @03:24AM (#5976308)
Seemingly everyone here who claims, against all evidence, that 4chan has a good moral character.

Now surely everyone is going to yell that they're just protecting their beloved web from censorship. However, since I never proposed censorship, that means most of them are arguing against the evil, censorious Congressman in their own heads, rather than against anything I actually said.

Re:4chan now offers self-serve advertising starting at $20 by indlebe on Monday July 01, 2013 @05:53PM (#5973837)
I think that less people would have problems with your comment if you stated that you were an oldfriend right off the bat.
Re:4chan now offers self-serve advertising starting at $20 by mhurron on Monday July 01, 2013 @06:36PM (#5974098)
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> oldfriend

Hey wait a minute ...

CENSORSHIP

Re:4chan now offers self-serve advertising starting at $20 by eli_gottlieb on Tuesday July 02, 2013 @03:26AM (#5976317)
But I'm not an oldfriend. I've only been making intermittent visits to 4chan for a couple of years now.