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Re:Germans Loved Obama. Now We Don’t Trust Him by tsotha on Sunday June 30, 2013 @10:46PM (#5968346)
What makes you think German intelligence agencies don't have a similar program?
Re:Germans Loved Obama. Now We Don’t Trust Him by vacri on Monday July 01, 2013 @12:20AM (#5968620)
'but everyone does it' is no excuse for amoral behaviour.

Besides, if a country positions itself as the beacon of -foo- for the world, then it should lead by example, not hide behind "but everyone does it".

Re:Germans Loved Obama. Now We Don’t Trust Him by kgarten on Monday July 01, 2013 @01:34AM (#5968857)
You think the German intelligence bugs embassies of other countries (and the UNO ??) and has secret deals wiht Google, Apple etc.?? I highly doubt it, the ramifications would be too high in case it became public. Anyhow, we are discussing US right now ... not Germany. (Check what ad hominem means :)
Re:Germans Loved Obama. Now We Don’t Trust Him by tsotha on Monday July 01, 2013 @02:57AM (#5969148)
>You think the German intelligence bugs embassies of other countries (and the UNO ??) and has secret deals wiht Google, Apple etc.??

Yes, I do. Further, I think friendly intelligence agencies have data sharing agreements to get around laws against domestic spying.