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Re:Nate Silver: The End of Car Culture by tjic on Wednesday May 06, 2009 @05:35PM (#596775)
We're in the deepest recession in half a century, and people are cutting back, and from ONE DATAPOINT, effectively, we're supposed to believe that it's the "end of the car culture" ?

> To sort this out, I built a regression model that accounts for both gas prices and the unemployment rate in a given month and attempts to predict from this data how much the typical American will drive.

Note that this model is tuned using 15 years of data, and yet we're in a mini Black Swan event that happens every 50 or 100 years.

OF COURSE there's divergence of reality and model.

I'm amazed that anyone can take this seriously.

Re:Nate Silver: The End of Car Culture by rms on Wednesday May 06, 2009 @07:49PM (#597071)
But this really is part of a trend seperate from the recession. People are leaving the exurbs and moving back to cities.
Re:Nate Silver: The End of Car Culture by oldgregg on Wednesday May 06, 2009 @05:48PM (#596801)
I moved to Boulder, CO on Saturday. In good part because I hate driving. It's hard to really grasp how much more enjoyable it makes life until you experience it. It's not just being car-free though, but the community that follows.

I lived in NYC for awhile and while it's car-free it's still pretty awful. You still have the same 30 minute commute -- there is no sense of geographic community. Unless you just refuse to make friends with people outside your neighborhood, every time you go out you're gonna end up on the train for who knows how long and-- oh wait, the cross-town is out of service and the train doesn't stop after 2am at blah blah blah. The stress level is easily on par with rush hour gridlock.

Re:Nate Silver: The End of Car Culture by gustavo_duarte on Wednesday May 06, 2009 @06:21PM (#596863)
Welcome to CO.

I've always found it amazing how people put up with rush hour traffic commutes. To waste a solid hour (or more), 5 days a week, doing something thoroughly unpleasant seems insane to me. I'd be willing to trade off a lot in life to avoid doing that.

Commuting on public transport is OK as long as I can read. Bikes are OK since they're fun.

Re:Nate Silver: The End of Car Culture by MotorMouths on Wednesday May 06, 2009 @06:28PM (#596876)
oldgregg: Get back to me after you've spent a carless winter in Boulder. (And I love Boulder.)
Re:Nate Silver: The End of Car Culture by pg on Wednesday May 06, 2009 @05:19PM (#596738)
"If there have been two seemingly immutable trends for the American consumer, they're that he's eaten more every year and driven more every year."

Ouch.

Re:Nate Silver: The End of Car Culture by jms18 on Wednesday May 06, 2009 @05:42PM (#596793)
I know 3d charts are nifty, but a 2d chart would have been more legible -- http://graphjam.com/2008/11/13/song-chart-memes-perception-o....
Re:Nate Silver: The End of Car Culture by rms on Wednesday May 06, 2009 @05:21PM (#596741)
Nate Silver's rise to intellectual prominence is my favorite consequence of the 2008 election so far.
Re:Nate Silver: The End of Car Culture by snewe on Wednesday May 06, 2009 @06:03PM (#596836)
Predictions via regressions should always have confidence bounds. I am skeptical of the conclusions given that he has prediction for 1980. In order to estimate predictions he probably ran his model on 1970 - 1979 data. The confidence in that prediction is a lot worse that the 1999 prediction and should impact all future predictions. I know it is an Esquire article, but I rarely see his posts go into these important details.
Re:Nate Silver: The End of Car Culture by sachmanb on Wednesday May 06, 2009 @05:15PM (#596734)
more interesting: what software did they use to make that chart?
Re:Nate Silver: The End of Car Culture by smhinsey on Wednesday May 06, 2009 @05:37PM (#596782)
illustrator or equivalent, most likely. most infographics are custom in publications of that size.