Ask HN: Will you help a junior developer in need of short-term employment?

Re:Ask HN: Will you help a junior developer in need of short... by alanchavez on Saturday June 29, 2013 @07:24PM (#5964068)

I'm going to tell you what other people haven't told yet.

Nobody cares whether you went to App Academy or learned how to code in your mom's garage.

Nobody cares if you have enough skill to rewrite the linux kernel from scratch.

If you want a job, you have to understand hiring managers needs and fears, and most importantly you need to know how to address them.

If you know how to get things done on time, and on budget then you're hirable.

While it shows passion that you built yet-another-asteroids-port it's irrelevant for the most part.

and this is coming from one 25 yo software engineer without a college degree making an income way above average and hardly 2 years of real experience.

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Re:Ask HN: Will you help a junior developer in need of short... by jmsbrwr on Saturday June 29, 2013 @07:55PM (#5964143)

So do you have any actual advice or are you just here to tell me that I'm doing it wrong? I invite constructive criticism, but I get enough destructive criticism as it is. I don't need any more.

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Re:Ask HN: Will you help a junior developer in need of short... by smartwater on Sunday June 30, 2013 @12:07AM (#5964674)

He provided plenty of great insight, do you not see it?

His emphasis is on: completion, budget, and timeframe. That's pretty much accurate. Being a good salesman or marketer is nice too. Nothing else matters. Everything else is a distraction or needless worry.

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Re:Ask HN: Will you help a junior developer in need of short... by jmsbrwr on Sunday June 30, 2013 @12:23AM (#5964702)

I understand what he said. What I don't understand is how someone in my situation shows evidence of completion, budget, and time frame. I suppose my final project will hit two of the three, but I have no way to prove that I will deliver under budget.

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Re:Ask HN: Will you help a junior developer in need of short... by alanchavez on Sunday June 30, 2013 @12:44AM (#5964735)

if you deliver on time, you deliver on budget...

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Re:Ask HN: Will you help a junior developer in need of short... by alanchavez on Sunday June 30, 2013 @12:13AM (#5964683)

Well that's actual advice boy, it's up to you if you still want to think that someone is going to hand you a job just because you need one.

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Re:Ask HN: Will you help a junior developer in need of short... by jmsbrwr on Sunday June 30, 2013 @12:20AM (#5964695)

Here's some advice for you: Stop being condescending. Implying that I am ignorantly expecting someone to give me a job I don't deserve is both arrogant and rude.

Good luck.

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Re:Ask HN: Will you help a junior developer in need of short... by alanchavez on Sunday June 30, 2013 @12:43AM (#5964728)

I never said you didn't deserve a job, that's an invisible script of yours... all I'm saying is that you're doing it wrong by focusing in the wrong things.

Nowadays telling you the truth is being arrogant and rude, oh well... good luck to you boy, I'm not the one in need for a job.

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Re:Ask HN: Will you help a junior developer in need of short... by alanchavez on Sunday June 30, 2013 @12:50AM (#5964742)

Also.. you should drop the "short term" employers like commitment.

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