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Re:The Best Hope for France’s Young? Get Out by sentenza on Saturday June 29, 2013 @06:48PM (#5963980)
I think I have to disagree. Not knowing the specifics of French unemployment benefits, here in Germany, the situation is probably closer to that in France than that in the US. If you are unemployed, you still have health insurance, you get some money, and becoming homeless because of unemployment is basically unheard of.

So far, I have yet to meet a person that is happily unemployed here. There is a huge social stigma attached to it and people get depressed because the self-image suffers from being unemployed for longer times. Going a little bit over the top, the whole incentive argument to me sounds like this: Since being miserable does not provide the right incentives for an unemployed person to search for work, the situation must be improved by making them miserable and hungry/homeless.

Re:The Best Hope for France’s Young? Get Out by rdouble on Saturday June 29, 2013 @07:02PM (#5964006)
France is like most countries with high unemployment in that the primary cause of unemployment is that there aren't enough jobs. Germany has the mittelstand which keeps over 70% of the population employed. The US has its own version of the mittelstand with over 26,000 Subway sandwich franchises, so its unemployement rate is only slightly worse than Germany.
Re:The Best Hope for France’s Young? Get Out by Radim on Saturday June 29, 2013 @07:32PM (#5964090)
Rubbish. There is a massive lack of jobs, just like everywhere else in Europe.

There may be a lack of high-paying, low-stress jobs, the kind that spoiled, study-a-random-field-till-30 university graduates generally feel entitled to, but that's not the same thing.

Re:The Best Hope for France’s Young? Get Out by rtpg on Saturday June 29, 2013 @10:06PM (#5964434)
>There may be a lack of high-paying, low-stress jobs, the kind that spoiled, study-a-random-field-till-30 university graduates generally feel entitled to, but that's not the same thing.

What are you referencing by that? Off the top of my mind I can't think of any low-stress job. Sure, some jobs are less stressful, but I don't think anyone has the expectation to find a job that doesn't conform to general properties of almost all jobs.

Re:The Best Hope for France’s Young? Get Out by rdouble on Saturday June 29, 2013 @07:58PM (#5964156)
Rubbish. There is a massive lack of jobs, just like everywhere else in Europe.

That's what I said. (?)

Re:The Best Hope for France’s Young? Get Out by icelancer on Saturday June 29, 2013 @06:52PM (#5963985)
It's a combination of incentives. Being unemployed is less awful in France, so there is negative pressure on being employed. Additionally, the cost to fund such a program creates negative pressure on increased employment through various means.

By no means am I a hardcore conservative and against these programs (they have their place), but innovation and employment thrives in a less regulated environment. We can argue about the quality of the labor in such systems, but that's entirely different.