Memories of Stasi color Germans’ view of U.S. surveillance programs

Re:Memories of Stasi color Germans’ view of U.S. surveillanc... by rmc on Friday June 28, 2013 @05:38AM (#5957051)

The UK went into Europe based on the ideals of the common market, what came after isn't what anybody signed up for

This is a common meme in British politics/public. The idea that "this isn't what we agreed". But I haven't actually seen any evidence for that.

It seems like backwards justification of the right wing british politics to explain why the Tories brought the UK into then EEC and to explain why the British public voted to stay in a few years later, and also to explain why many other countries (a) want to stay in it and (b) want to join.

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Re:Memories of Stasi color Germans’ view of U.S. surveillanc... by flyinRyan on Friday June 28, 2013 @08:48AM (#5957637)

It's pretty much the poor countries that want to join. The rich countries like Switzerland are out and want to stay out.

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Re:Memories of Stasi color Germans’ view of U.S. surveillanc... by rmc on Friday June 28, 2013 @09:04AM (#5957720)

Yes and no. Yes, Switzerland (and Norway) are not in the EU and don't want to offically join. However they have special trade deals with the EU, customs union, they have to implement EU law, they have to allow free movement of EU citizens to live and work there, they are in the Council of Europe and have to abide by the European Court of Human Rights, they're in Schengen. Switzerland and Norway are basically in EU in everything but name.

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