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Re:We were wrong by tomjen3 on Friday June 21, 2013 @02:45PM (#5920119)
What you think isn't interesting, but I would like to see a comprehensive, well formulated argument as to why you think that; indeed I have commented extensively in this thread to find such an argument, but mostly its that all the other arguments just shame language (rape culture, you have a problem. I will be sincerely please if you could provide a good argument against my position.
Re:We were wrong by cbendeb on Friday June 21, 2013 @06:13PM (#5921334)
Morality is a very complex topic that possibly can't be proven by logic anyway. Why is racism immoral, other than the fact that we, as a society, have decided that it's immoral?

I think seduction manuals are immoral because they essentially treat women like min-maxers do video games--do this, and your chance of success is raised by X%, follow this procedure to succeed, etc. It makes women into vending machines that, if the buttons are properly pressed in the right succession, will theoretically result in a prize--sex--being dispensed. I think that treating people like that is immoral. Can I prove this logically? Can I claim that this is a universal truth? Of course not, but the same is true for every moral stance.

Re:We were wrong by arrrg on Friday June 21, 2013 @05:16PM (#5921074)
I don’t think it’s possible to convince you. I will not attempt it.