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Re:Statement Regarding Temporary Hiatus on U.S. Dollar Withd... by tlrobinson on Thursday June 20, 2013 @11:45AM (#5912746)
Was that a joke?

What does public WiFi have to do with anything? We're talking about the NSA wiretapping Internet backbones and forging SSL certificates.

Re:Statement Regarding Temporary Hiatus on U.S. Dollar Withd... by sneak on Thursday June 20, 2013 @03:08PM (#5914167)
We're not talking about forging ssl certs and never have been. NSA doesn't do that and never will, for reasons which are totally obvious if actually think about what would happen if they did.
Re:Statement Regarding Temporary Hiatus on U.S. Dollar Withd... by tlrobinson on Thursday June 20, 2013 @03:52PM (#5914487)
By "forge" I meant using the private keys (obtained through FISA, or possibly cracked) to either decrypt or MITM SSL sessions, not using one of their own CAs to create a valid but obviously fake certificate, which I assume is what you thought I meant.

Maybe "forge" was the wrong word.

Re:Statement Regarding Temporary Hiatus on U.S. Dollar Withd... by Robin_Message on Friday June 21, 2013 @05:40AM (#5917271)
I think (not an expert) that with elliptic curve Diffie-Hellman (which e.g. Google uses), even with the private key and the whole session, you still can't decrypt the session (Diffie-Hellman provides a secure channel, public/private proves the server is who it says it is).
Re:Statement Regarding Temporary Hiatus on U.S. Dollar Withd... by sneak on Friday June 21, 2013 @11:01PM (#5922391)
That is correct. These are referred to as ECDHE, or DHE for the non-ECC variant (vanilla DH). The last e is "ephemeral", referring to the lifetime of the session key.

The property that this provides is known as "forward secrecy".

Re:Statement Regarding Temporary Hiatus on U.S. Dollar Withd... by nwh on Thursday June 20, 2013 @03:49PM (#5914465)
Assume they have access to the original pricate keys.
Re:Statement Regarding Temporary Hiatus on U.S. Dollar Withd... by zachrose on Thursday June 20, 2013 @01:32PM (#5913389)
We're talking about anonymity, not secrecy.
Re:Statement Regarding Temporary Hiatus on U.S. Dollar Withd... by tlrobinson on Thursday June 20, 2013 @01:53PM (#5913606)
Oh I see. That works as long as nothing you do online can identify you. That rules out the vast majority of things people do online.