Bruce Schneier: Has U.S. started an Internet war?

Re:Bruce Schneier: Has U.S. started an Internet war? by vacri on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @04:13AM (#5904315)

That's not 'hot war', that's all 'gunboat diplomacy'. If it is a war, it's still a cold war. Militarising coastal waters to apply pressure. If the US was in a 'hot war' with Iran, there would have been more than a planeload of civilians as casualties - a 'hot war' is one were there's been a declaration of war and there's an armed conflict going on.

People died all the time on the interface between the First and Second Worlds, yet it was still termed a 'cold war' for the decades it existed.

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Re:Bruce Schneier: Has U.S. started an Internet war? by greedo on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @01:12PM (#5906788)

Enforcing maritime law isn't "militarising coastal waters." Trying to defend what the Iranians were doing as innocent is disingenuous.

And a hot war is one where bullets, missiles, shells are flying around. Just because there's no declaration of war doesn't mean it's not a war. Let's look at a little history here:

Korean War - Hmm, no declaration of war Vietnam War - Same Grenada - Same Panama - Same Desert Shield/Storm - hmm, no declaration here either OIF - Same OEF - Same

So the pattern is pretty clear, that declarations of war aren't worth the paper they're printed on. And try telling the combatants on both sides in the above conflicts that they weren't in a hot war.

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Re:Bruce Schneier: Has U.S. started an Internet war? by vacri on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @06:26PM (#5908843)

Speaking of disingenuous, where did I defend what the Iranians did? Where did I say that gunboat diplomacy was only a US thing?

And a hot war is one where bullets, missiles, shells are flying around So the Cold War was a hot war then? You can't fix a poor definition with a poorer definition.

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