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Re:San Francisco by nilkn on Sunday June 16, 2013 @09:28PM (#5890899)
Overall, SF makes me feel like the standard of living for developers is really going down, not up. For all that the startup culture has produced, it has also encouraged lots of people to basically save no money and significantly reduce their living standards all for the sake of "doing a startup." I'm always shocked to hear so many stories of people living in near poverty to work on a startup idea which is, in total honesty, far from amazing.

I don't mean to come off the wrong way or as judgmental. But when I think of a software developer in SF, I don't think of someone with a nice house with a backyard. I think of someone in a cramped apartment, probably with roommates.

Re:San Francisco by ryanSrich on Sunday June 16, 2013 @10:17PM (#5891039)
I'm totally generalizing here but I often find that young entrepreneurs, especially those living in or wanting to move into the valley, lack the financial aptitude that it takes to run a profitable business. You also have the engineers moving there that harbor much of the same mentality.

This has always puzzled me. It's certainly not the salary as many cities around the country pay more in terms of the relative cost of living. My only thought is that it must be the companies that are headquartered there; which in turn takes a severe lack of financial foresight from said engineer. It's almost like these people don't know how to balance a check book, or rather, they don't care to.

Re:San Francisco by rahilsondhi on Sunday June 16, 2013 @11:23PM (#5891251)
The roommate thing is really annoying. I'm a grown man with a full time job paying $100k+ and I gave to have roommates? That was not in the plan...
Re:San Francisco by Zhenya on Monday June 17, 2013 @07:39PM (#5896670)
You know, a working spouse can count as a roommate. And think, you can do your grown-man-thang.
Re:San Francisco by caniszczyk on Monday June 17, 2013 @12:19PM (#5894023)
Good luck affording a house :)