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Re:San Francisco by adw on Sunday June 16, 2013 @03:23PM (#5889549)
SF is way worse (I used to live in Finsbury Park, now live in the Mission).
Re:San Francisco by objclxt on Sunday June 16, 2013 @04:58PM (#5889960)
Yeah, I'd agree with that. I've lived in both. This is not to say that parts of London aren't dodgy, but SF is I think both subjectively and quantifiably worse.

For example, London has around 500 people sleeping rough each night. San Francisco has almost ten times as many, between 3-5,000 (mainly because a winter's night in SF is rather more survivable than a London one).

More subjectively, I think public transport in London far surpasses SF, both in terms of safety and quality (...Friday nights excepted, but I think that's par the course of any large city).

[1]: London figures from here (http://www.thamesreach.org.uk/news-and-views/homelessness-fa...), SF figures from here (http://www.sfgate.com/homeless/)

Re:San Francisco by kryten on Sunday June 16, 2013 @04:04PM (#5889707)
Seriously? I lived in a crap hotel in Finsbury Park for a few weeks and it was a dive.
Re:San Francisco by adw on Sunday June 16, 2013 @06:05PM (#5890209)
I was down nearer the Highbury end of things, but in terms of drugs/violence/random menacing on the streets SF is way sketchier.